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Launch HN: DevFlight (YC W19) – Helping open-source maintainers make money

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Launch HN: DevFlight (YC W19) – Helping open-source maintainers make money

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Hey HN,

We’re Victor and Tony, founders of DevFlight (https://devflight.com). We help open-source maintainers make money. Think of us as agents for open-source maintainers.

We met last year through the Indie Hackers community. It’s one of the luckiest things that’s ever happened to us. We clicked immediately. It became clear we share an obsession with building things to make developers’ lives easier. We began working on small developer-centric projects together.

We started DevFlight after recognizing maintainers are the most underserved developers. They provide immense value and get little in return. We’ve spoken with many maintainers who’ve told us the current open-source development model is unsustainable for them. Their projects often end up being a second full-time job without pay. Some have to stop supporting their projects altogether due to a lack of resources.

It’s time to start paying maintainers well for their work. Making open-source development sustainable will benefit everyone in the long-term. Our vision is to make it possible for maintainers to receive a stable income that accurately reflects the value they bring to companies. We’re accomplishing this by connecting maintainers with companies who will pay them.

If you’re a maintainer, apply now on our website to join the waitlist. We’re currently working with a small group of maintainers from popular projects. We’ll gradually expand this group. Shoot us an email to learn more. We’d love to chat with you.

We aim to make the process of hiring maintainers dead simple for companies. We communicate when maintainers are available and what types of work they can provide. If your company is interested in learning more, please reach out to us.

Companies are paying for things like priority email and on-demand support from maintainers, feature request prioritization, continued development of the project, faster bug fixes, and guaranteed project stability. This is not an exhaustive list.

We take 10% from every contract we negotiate. We’re aware the contract model doesn’t work for everyone. We’re exploring other revenue models based on what’s best for our maintainer network. We’d be particularly interested in hearing any ideas about this from the HN community.

This is a difficult problem to solve, because it’s fundamentally more of a human problem than a software one. Companies often aren’t aware of all the open-source software they’re dependent on. Many also have complex purchasing requirements and no clear understanding of how their company can directly benefit from paying maintainers. Solving this problem requires better communication, more transparency, and new systems.

We know the HN community has a wealth of experience and knowledge on this topic. We’re excited to listen to any thoughts and experiences you’re willing to share with us. We want to continue to learn and evaluate how we’re approaching this problem, so fire away!

Victor and Tony

Re: Launch HN: DevFlight (YC W19) – Helping open-source maintainers make money

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I'd like to know some more about how exactly you go about executing the plan? The landing page doesn't go into any detail there.

I think you'd have a much better chance of getting open source maintainers' attention if they know more about what you do, your credentials, and how you approach working this out as a business. There's really nothing on the website!

Re: Launch HN: DevFlight (YC W19) – Helping open-source maintainers make money

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Can you share publicly any of the projects & maintainers you're currently working with?

Co-founder here. Absolutely! We’re working with the wonderful maintainers of projects like Caddy Server (https://github.com/mholt/caddy) and OctoberCMS (https://github.com/octobercms/october). We’ll be able to share more of the maintainers we’re partnering with soon.

Re: Launch HN: DevFlight (YC W19) – Helping open-source maintainers make money

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"Companies often aren’t aware of all the open-source software they’re dependent on".

Gitlinks (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdaQE6FpM_Q) is an acquired startup that tackled that problem by identifying open-source projects that a company relied on and auditing the code to find security vulnerabilities. Might be worth it to get in touch as I think their technology could be helpful to you.

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"Companies often aren’t aware of all the open-source software they’re dependent on". Gitlinks ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdaQE6FpM_Q ) is an acquired startup that tackled that problem by identifying open-source projects that a company relied on and auditing the code to find security vulnerabilities. Might be worth it to get in touch as I think their technology could be helpful to you.

We'll definitely check them out. Thanks for the suggestion!

Re: Launch HN: DevFlight (YC W19) – Helping open-source maintainers make money

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One nice thing about free OSS is that it's not paid for. Hence, less influence by external forces, fewer obligations, no strict deadlines, etc. More often than not, this leads to better quality of such software (given that maintainers are experienced and smart). I'm not sure how establishing a direct relationship between money and work (as opposed to donations and grants) would affect the rather high standards of good OSS..

Re: Launch HN: DevFlight (YC W19) – Helping open-source maintainers make money

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I'd like to know some more about how exactly you go about executing the plan? The landing page doesn't go into any detail there. I think you'd have a much better chance of getting open source maintainers' attention if they know more about what you do, your credentials, and how you approach working this out as a business. There's really nothing on the website!

Thanks for that feedback. We start by collecting publicly available GitHub information related to the maintainer’s repo. This includes looking at who has engaged with projects by doing things like submitting issues, pull requests, and stars. We also use Twitter and any community channels the maintainer has created (Slack, Gitter, Discourse, etc.). Then we act as the maintainer’s sales team by reaching out to these leads with customized messages. We find the right people within an organization to discuss how the maintainer can add value to the company, and we negotiate contracts based on the custom plan we’ve developed with the maintainer.

Re: Launch HN: DevFlight (YC W19) – Helping open-source maintainers make money

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post #3

Can you share publicly any of the projects & maintainers you're currently working with?

Co-founder here. Absolutely! We’re working with the wonderful maintainers of projects like Caddy Server ( https://github.com/mholt/caddy ) and OctoberCMS ( https://github.com/octobercms/october ). We’ll be able to share more of the maintainers we’re partnering with soon.

Funny to see caddy here, since they are already offering commercial licenses.

EDIT: In fact, commercial use is only available via the commercial license, even if a company decides to build their own binaries.

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