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Ask HN: Why can’t I block all incoming calls that aren’t in my contact list?

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Re: Ask HN: Why can’t I block all incoming calls that aren’t in my contact list?

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This is the kind of solution that only works because basically nobody is doing it. If a big provider deployed it, it would take five seconds for it to be defeated.

This is hacker news so this kind of solution is cool. And whatever the big guys are doing this user can always change his approach to defeat the spammers. Not globally but just for himself.

I agree.

Re: Ask HN: Why can’t I block all incoming calls that aren’t in my contact list?

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A few years ago my parents were getting a lot of spam calls on their landline. Basically all of them were automated calls, either a recorded message or you were connected to a person shortly after the call was connected. I bought an OBi100 [0], which is a small device designed to be a VOIP adapter, but you can setup rules on how calls (incoming or outgoing) are handled. I setup a rule that if the call was from a with…

This is the kind of solution that only works because basically nobody is doing it. If a big provider deployed it, it would take five seconds for it to be defeated.

Exactly. With phone number spoofing, all the scammer needs is the phone number of someone on your list. With social media how long do you think it would take to generate such a list, and to get propagated to every scammer?

Re: Ask HN: Why can’t I block all incoming calls that aren’t in my contact list?

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This is the kind of solution that only works because basically nobody is doing it. If a big provider deployed it, it would take five seconds for it to be defeated.

I just love the thought of identifying a CAPTCHA-like obscured audio everytime I am calling someone.. :D

"Laurel" "Sorry, the expected answer was Yannie."

Re: Ask HN: Why can’t I block all incoming calls that aren’t in my contact list?

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post #166

A few years ago my parents were getting a lot of spam calls on their landline. Basically all of them were automated calls, either a recorded message or you were connected to a person shortly after the call was connected. I bought an OBi100 [0], which is a small device designed to be a VOIP adapter, but you can setup rules on how calls (incoming or outgoing) are handled. I setup a rule that if the call was from a with…

When I had a landline, I set my voice mail message to the 'we're sorry, your number cannot be completed as dialed' message. Worked great.

Hard to see any downsides to that plan.

Re: Ask HN: Why can’t I block all incoming calls that aren’t in my contact list?

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post #166

A few years ago my parents were getting a lot of spam calls on their landline. Basically all of them were automated calls, either a recorded message or you were connected to a person shortly after the call was connected. I bought an OBi100 [0], which is a small device designed to be a VOIP adapter, but you can setup rules on how calls (incoming or outgoing) are handled. I setup a rule that if the call was from a with…

My brother used a nice addition to this that worked quite well -- the message started with the obnoxious three-tone sound that usually precedes a failed call ("beeep-boooop-beeep this call cannot be completed as dialed..."), then just went into the "please press 3 to be connected to ..."

Seemed to automatically take them off most lists pretty quickly.

Re: Ask HN: Why can’t I block all incoming calls that aren’t in my contact list?

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My name is James, I work for Community Phone, a nationwide cell phone company. Show of hands: if we opened up this feature for you to control this filter for yourself or your loved ones, holding all else constant (price and coverage), would that be sufficient to cause a switch to try out an alternate provider?

Honestly, I would pay for a feature where: - People in my contact list (or whitelist) automatically get through - Everyone else is forwarded to a real live human who screens my calls (The reason why I would pay is I'd rather just have a well-paid human handle this instead of some kind of AI or heuristic.) The human could be paired with some data, like what phone network the call came from, and additional data about h…

Hi, a friend of mine started a similar thing called the Jolly Roger Telephone company. You should check them out, to fully appreciate the merit of your final point :)

Regarding your proposed feature, how much time, or how many calls/fewer distractions, would you look forward to saving every month if this real live human did their job well?

Re: Ask HN: Why can’t I block all incoming calls that aren’t in my contact list?

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At least in Spain you can ask to be in the Robinson list and then, no company can call you for advertisements or offers unless you're a client of them. AND, in Spain is against the data protection law to do marketing calls from mobile phones if you're not their client. So they can get into trouble if they do.

You can always set you're phone to ignore calls, but this doesn't avoid the call to reach your phone. However, the robinson list does.

"Is an opt-out list of people who do not wish to receive marketing transmissions"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robinson_list

Re: Ask HN: Why can’t I block all incoming calls that aren’t in my contact list?

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post #191

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re #2: They can leave a voicemail; I'll listen to it and call back if necessary.

Going back and listening to voicemails of spam is more time consuming than just answering it at the time it comes in.

Hmmm, as interrupting to answer at the time has the additional overhead of task/context switching, I'd say it's more.

If you just switch to/from the voicemail context once for 10 messages, the cost is only 10% of the cost for real-time answering.

Re: Ask HN: Why can’t I block all incoming calls that aren’t in my contact list?

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Tangentially; T-Mobile tags suspect numbers with "Scam Likely" caller ID. Opt-in to block these calls by dialing #662# - https://www.t-mobile.com/resources/call-protection edit; T-Mobile accepts forwarded text message SPAM at 7726 - https://www.t-mobile.com/responsibility/privacy/fraud-spam/s...

Thank you, just activated this. And it is #632# to opt back out again (for my own future reference, I can probably find this thread faster than T-Mobile's documentation :)

Re: Ask HN: Why can’t I block all incoming calls that aren’t in my contact list?

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