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Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by ambrop7 »

lugg wrote: post #100

Recently switched from chromium to Firefox. Very pleased with its performance. Android Firefox demolishes chrome too but probably just because I no longer need to download and render all the ads (thanks ublock.) While I was at it I also took the chance to migrate passwords out of Google land into Bitwarden. Session restore is amazing, my .cache is tmpfs but it still manages to instantly recover all my tabs on reboot.…

On all my Linux systems (NixOS), Firefox lags/skips while scrolling all the time. It's a deal breaker for me so I use Chromium, which scrolls without lagging. I read it is because Firefox does not use HW graphics acceleration on Linux, in general. This is both on a computer with the NVidia driver and one with the open-source radeon driver.

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by markn951 »

newscracker wrote: post #155

I’m a diehard Firefox user and supporter, but with every release there are still things I wait on the WebExtensions support to improve: 1. There’s still no full featured Tab Mix Plus possible with the current APIs. That’s been a big bummer for some years now. 2. The most downloaded session management extension now is still not as rich and good as the old XUL extension Session Manager (from mozdev). 3. I probably have…

Best not hold your breath. You are an old-school power user and 99.9% of users no longer know or care about any of the functionality you're talking about.

I don't have any specific retorts to your points other than pointing you to https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/textarea-cach... for a Lazarus replacement (although I thought Firefox does this by default, and I don't understand why you need an extension at all).

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by xiii1408 »

ambrop7 wrote: post #281
lugg wrote: post #100

Recently switched from chromium to Firefox. Very pleased with its performance. Android Firefox demolishes chrome too but probably just because I no longer need to download and render all the ads (thanks ublock.) While I was at it I also took the chance to migrate passwords out of Google land into Bitwarden. Session restore is amazing, my .cache is tmpfs but it still manages to instantly recover all my tabs on reboot.…

On all my Linux systems (NixOS), Firefox lags/skips while scrolling all the time. It's a deal breaker for me so I use Chromium, which scrolls without lagging. I read it is because Firefox does not use HW graphics acceleration on Linux, in general. This is both on a computer with the NVidia driver and one with the open-source radeon driver.

Hardware acceleration is disabled by default because many graphics drivers suck and will break the browser if hardware acceleration is turned on. You can just go into the settings and turn it on (and then off, if you have problems).

Chromium disables hardware acceleration by default for a wide swatch of graphics drivers too (including all Nvidia GPUs).

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by ambrop7 »

xiii1408 wrote: post #283
ambrop7 wrote: post #281

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On all my Linux systems (NixOS), Firefox lags/skips while scrolling all the time. It's a deal breaker for me so I use Chromium, which scrolls without lagging. I read it is because Firefox does not use HW graphics acceleration on Linux, in general. This is both on a computer with the NVidia driver and one with the open-source radeon driver.

Hardware acceleration is disabled by default because many graphics drivers suck and will break the browser if hardware acceleration is turned on. You can just go into the settings and turn it on (and then off, if you have problems). Chromium disables hardware acceleration by default for a wide swatch of graphics drivers too (including all Nvidia GPUs).

On my current Linux system with NVidia drivers, HW acceleration is enabled according to chrome://gpu (there are many accelerations and some are disabled, but many are enabled including Canvas and Compositing). Regardless of all, Chromium works just great, including smooth scrolling and WebGL, and Firefox doesn't (laggy scrolling, slower WebGL than in Chromium). I don't think the problem is with drivers but with Firefox.

> Chromium disables hardware acceleration by default for a wide swatch of graphics drivers too (including all Nvidia GPUs).

From what I remember reading, it disables it for nouveau driver, not the NVidia driver which works. This is supported by the fact my Chromium is currently using HW accel on NVidia without me having forced anything.

I did try enabling HW accel in Firefox and it did not solve laggy scrolling. I don't think it even really got enabled, I think it's forcibly disabled even if you try to override it.

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by dTal »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #198
detaro wrote: post #106

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Wouldn't the average Ubuntu user be best off by getting it through the Ubuntu package repo once it's updated there? Or doesn't Ubuntu have a channel that would provide that soon by default?

Well, yes and no. I'm precluded from installing new Firefox via apt-get because my Ubuntu version fell off active support. Running a dist-upgrade is risky, and I don't feel like doing it until I know I have a spare free day to fix everything in case of a problem. A Firefox PPA would be a nice thing to use instead, for now.

Average user: "Pee pee what now?"

If Firefox offered a .deb for $OS on their homepage, and Grandma attempts to install it while running $OTHEROS, then likely she will either 1) fail or 2) break her system. That's a worse user experience than a .tar.gz.

Asking Firefox to maintain packages for every outdated Debian-based distro is unreasonable. Nice to have, yes, but unreasonable to ask.

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by bovine3dom »

fxfan wrote: post #269
bovine3dom wrote: post #253

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We don't have much validation on `set` - people can use it to make their own settings if they want - so just because it was accepted doesn't mean that it worked in the way you thought it would... In this case it's because I misremembered the setting. You want `:set hintnames numeric` instead : ) Regarding bind: as I said, it maps sequences of keys to an ex-command. Your attempt is a sequence of keys to a sequence of…

Thank you. Your using `we` made me go to github contributors and sure enough you were one of the top guys :) I guess with the right `hintnames` and `:bind w tabnext` working I am 95% of the way already. Couple of things if I don't come across as ungrateul-- :nativeinstall didn't work for me, so I manually did the (seemingly risky) step. :native now shows 0.1.10 installed but C-i doesn't yet work. I'll look around and…

What do you mean by the manual step for nativeinstall? It is risky if you don't trust us, which is why Mozilla won't let us do it automatically, so it has to be manual.

What do you mean by imap and nmap? We already have separate binds for normal and insert mode (which is why you can type into text boxes ;) ). I think Ctrl-Z was bound to ignore mode in Pentadactyl. Now I think about it, I don't know why it isn't bound to ignore mode; I should probably do that. Anyway, `stop` is just fundamentally broken at the moment because we can't access the page until it loads a bit. It is bound to `x` by default.

We actually have most of the readline binds. They're hidden away on the help page - if you look at the third paragraph "text areas that can be found here" - but we left them unbound by default because I don't use them and we can't rebind ctrl-w. I don't want to train people that we have readline binds and make them close tabs that they're editing text in :)

As for your editor - I don't know why it isn't working without more information. Feel free to file an issue on GitHub. (For the avoidance of doubt - you need to have a text box focused to use it - I know it sounds silly but it has come up before).

You don't sound ungrateful - Tridactyl is complicated, has weird defaults, and is badly documented.

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by Tomte »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #201
yuchi wrote: post #87

> Support for Handoff on macOS: Continue browsing across devices. Pick up where you left off with iOS (via Firefox or Safari) on Firefox on Mac. OH YES! Finally!

I didn't realize Handoff was even possible for third party apps!

I suppose there is no way to make it work with Firefox on Windows and iOS? That would be awesome!

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by Markoff »

shaklee3 wrote: post #56

I remember about a year or two ago, there was a lot of press on HN about a new Firefox engine that made it extremely fast. Ever since then, I've only seen negative comments about Firefox. Did that just not pan out as much as people had expected?

works fine on desktop, but it's unusable on android constant crashes, jumpy cursor or repeated words in text field, jittery scrolling, slow loading of pages and don't get me started on pull down to refresh ignored for years, because apparently giving users options it's against Firefox philosophy

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by ubercow13 »

oosjc9a5 wrote: post #228
lugg wrote: post #100

Recently switched from chromium to Firefox. Very pleased with its performance. Android Firefox demolishes chrome too but probably just because I no longer need to download and render all the ads (thanks ublock.) While I was at it I also took the chance to migrate passwords out of Google land into Bitwarden. Session restore is amazing, my .cache is tmpfs but it still manages to instantly recover all my tabs on reboot.…

Firefox is faster than Chrome on Android? For me, even scrolling HN (i.e. no JS at all) was jittery and laggy.

Scrolling in Firefox on Android is smoother, ie. more consistent 60fps, than Chrome for me for a few months now. It used to be very bad but suddenly improved dramatically.
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