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Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by pyr0hu » Tue, Jan 29, 2019, 5:28 PM UTC

kemenaran wrote: post #214

pyr0hu wrote: post #112

Is it just me, or the font used by FF is changed on OSX? It's a bit crispier and it's not antialiased

Are you on macOS Mojave? If yes, it could be because Firefox started honoring the system font settings of Mojave [1]. Enabling font smoothing in System Preferences now results in slighlty bolder fonts, and grayscale font smoothing. Firefox and Chrome needed some time to adjust to these settings, but now have the same rendering than the rest of the system. [1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1495282

Yes, on latest Mojave. Thanks for the heads up, did not know that FF just started supporting the Mac settings

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by letsgetsilly » Tue, Jan 29, 2019, 5:28 PM UTC

I'd love to switch over to Firefox, but I'm used to Chrome's developer toolkit. I understand it thoroughly and can use it proficiently.

Any insight as to the comparison between the state of FF's developer tools and Chrome's would be appreciated. I'd love to be convinced to switch.

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by joveian » Tue, Jan 29, 2019, 5:31 PM UTC

NamTaf wrote: post #72

vezycash wrote: post #23

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Why don't they write it as Block, Ask, Allow? Much easier this way.

Apparently, setting both “ask-permission” and “enabled.user-gestures-needed” to true then enables a setting in the privacy area of settings to have a dropdown box with these options. I’m guessing it maps to the 0/1/2 setting I mentioned earlier https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1238033

Thanks! I also found this page with a bit more info on the settings:

https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/web/FirefoxMediaAut...

I changed all the media.autoplay settings from the default except block-event.enabled, with default set to 1. With that it seems to do what I want. I'm not sure if the strange media.block-autoplay-until-in-foreground behavior described in the comment is still happening but I set that to false also.

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by andrepd » Tue, Jan 29, 2019, 5:33 PM UTC

How do the new privacy blocker settings interfere or conflict with uBlock?

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by fulafel » Tue, Jan 29, 2019, 5:34 PM UTC

shaklee3 wrote: post #56

I remember about a year or two ago, there was a lot of press on HN about a new Firefox engine that made it extremely fast. Ever since then, I've only seen negative comments about Firefox. Did that just not pan out as much as people had expected?

The new rendering engine (WebRender aka Quantum Render) it not yet on by default. And at first it will be only enabled on Windows.

Here is the tracking bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1386669

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by Tepix » Tue, Jan 29, 2019, 5:36 PM UTC

lugg wrote: post #100

Recently switched from chromium to Firefox. Very pleased with its performance. Android Firefox demolishes chrome too but probably just because I no longer need to download and render all the ads (thanks ublock.) While I was at it I also took the chance to migrate passwords out of Google land into Bitwarden. Session restore is amazing, my .cache is tmpfs but it still manages to instantly recover all my tabs on reboot.…

I hadn't heard about Bitwarden. Looks like it requires 2-4GB of RAM and a x86 CPU to run your own server due to relying on MS SQL server. Bummer!

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by AnaniasAnanas » Tue, Jan 29, 2019, 5:39 PM UTC

baselined wrote: post #162

AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #7

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Yes, it is much appreciated. Can't tell you how many times my finger has slipped and hit Ctrl+Q instead of Ctrl+W. Oh well! I didn't need all that work...

Did they remove ctrl + shift + t to reopen a closed tab?

C-q closes the window, not the tab.

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by pessimizer » Tue, Jan 29, 2019, 5:40 PM UTC

whatshisface wrote: post #99

ekianjo wrote: post #58

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Probably. It's pretty sad when you see something great stuck in a local minima because of "thinking heads" that know better.

They should bring back Brian Eich, things were better for the users when he was in charge.

I don't think it was him in particular, it was just that firing him gave them the opportunity to replace him and his people with people more attuned to their agendas. It's the agendas that should change, the people would follow. They installed a new culture at the top that was more interested in using Firefox as a transitional way to burnish their resumés, and any semblance of core values disappeared in a tangle of projects that were branded as innovation and that everybody could sign. Meanwhile they've been in consistent negative growth in users that is actually starting to look insignificant because their entire userbase is now insignificant. I mean: losing 1%/month of the number of the users they have now seems like a rounding error compared to 1%/month of the users they had 5 years ago.

Anyway, they'll always be guaranteed at least 3% of the market from diehard anti-Google/Microsoft/closed-source users like me, and users from outside the US who are concerned by unaccountable US tech behemoths who are intimately intertwined with the government. With that 3%, they'll be able to fulfill their primary function of being something that Google can claim in an antitrust hearing keeps them from being a monopoly.

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by darkpuma » Tue, Jan 29, 2019, 5:42 PM UTC

jammygit wrote: post #157

whatshisface wrote: post #99

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They should bring back Brian Eich, things were better for the users when he was in charge.

He's running brave now

And Steve Jobs was running NeXT. And like NeXT, Brave doesn't really seem to be catching on...

From what I understand though, Eich has lost faith in Mozilla maintaining their own renderer, so if he came back to Mozilla it would probably coincide with Firefox becoming yet another chromium skin.

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by dabockster » Tue, Jan 29, 2019, 5:44 PM UTC

DCKing wrote: post #158

collyw wrote: post #141

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> No, you should not expect Ubuntu or Debian users to figure out on their own If someone knows what Debian is and has chosen to install it I think its fairly safe to assume they have some Linux knowledge. Ubuntu on the other hand is the most likely to work without any tweaking. Its the default choice for less technical people wanting to try Linux as well as more experienced people who want a hassle free install.

Maybe I should not have started with the distinction between "technical" and "non-technical". My argument is that even technical users, with the skill to install Debian [1] or far beyond, should not have to figure out this problem. Even if your users can figure out how to solve such problems, they shouldn't have to confront them with a thing to figure out if you don't need to. The Linux ecosystem is so full of the at…

> The Linux ecosystem is so full of the attitude "oh well, my users can figure it out". It really annoys me, and it really holds stuff back.

Or worse, you get devs with super high egos that will say "Anyone who can't understand a tar file is a freggin' idiot". Note that this is significantly toned down. Ever wondered where Internet troll culture comes from? Linux devs.