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Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by cpeterso » Tue, Jan 29, 2019, 5:05 PM UTC

move-on-by wrote: post #147

lugg wrote: post #100

Recently switched from chromium to Firefox. Very pleased with its performance. Android Firefox demolishes chrome too but probably just because I no longer need to download and render all the ads (thanks ublock.) While I was at it I also took the chance to migrate passwords out of Google land into Bitwarden. Session restore is amazing, my .cache is tmpfs but it still manages to instantly recover all my tabs on reboot.…

I've pretty much made the same changes. I was luke-warm on the switch from chrome to Firefox until I started using containers and CookieAutoDelete with those containers. I have a 'Google' container that preserves google cookies for when I log into gmail (transition in progress)- but otherwise google cookies get automatically deleted. There are a handful of other sites I wish to stay logged into - like github, slack,…

You like the "Temporary Containers" extension. It automatically creates a new container for every site that doesn't already have an assigned container. The temporary container (cookies, etc) get deleted 30 minutes after you close the last tab for the container's site.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/temporary-con...

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by techntoke » Tue, Jan 29, 2019, 5:06 PM UTC

kerng wrote: post #82

shaklee3 wrote: post #56

I remember about a year or two ago, there was a lot of press on HN about a new Firefox engine that made it extremely fast. Ever since then, I've only seen negative comments about Firefox. Did that just not pan out as much as people had expected?

Firefox is fantastic! But I have noticed a similar trend with Firefox getting negative comments. One particular reason might be that HN has a lot of current and former Google employees on it, and they are pretty vocal and actively defend Google and downvote everything else - I have experienced this multiple times when bringing up anything negative about Chrome - which is really not that great of a browser. Especially…

I personally find the opposite, where it is usually Mozilla fans bashing Chrome. Mozilla doesn't have any better record when it comes to security. I still have access to all my favorite privacy extensions within Chromium. I also find the performance on Linux (Arch with VAAPI) for Chromium to be much better than Firefox.

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by TheForumTroll » Tue, Jan 29, 2019, 5:08 PM UTC

amimetic wrote: post #101

acdha wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you using a non-native display resolution? That seems to be the common factor for people who have significant problems. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1404042

A scaled resolution is now default on most MacBooks. I haven't noticed battery problems but certainly seen RAM usage at least double that of Chrome and considerably above Safari.

Have you tested if Firefox use more RAM when low on free memory? Using unused RAM is better than not using it. Looking at amount of RAM used by an application is not a useful benchmark. Unless your are seeing swapping Firefox is doing The Right Thing.

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by shmerl » Tue, Jan 29, 2019, 5:09 PM UTC

jhasse wrote: post #215

shmerl wrote: post #185

Is there any progress with GPU accelerated video decoding / encoding in the Linux version? Now that WebRender is in place it should be possible? Without it, any WebRTC video conferencing applications are very CPU heavy, which cripples them on laptops especially.

I don't think WebRender has anything to do with accelerated video decoding. Here's the bug btw: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1210727

WebRender seems to be a prerequisite for it: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=563206

> The GPU->GPU copy is only usable if you also have hardware accelerated composition.

I thought WebRender is implementing such compositor.

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by jayess » Tue, Jan 29, 2019, 5:10 PM UTC

IOT_Apprentice wrote: post #216

pselbert wrote: post #179

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Not the original poster, but I would recommend to anybody that they move to Fastmail.

what about protonmail?

Protonmail limits the number of domains you can use. Fastmail has a much higher limit.

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by lugg » Tue, Jan 29, 2019, 5:12 PM UTC

bubblethink wrote: post #199

snazz wrote: post #190

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Have you tried that again since September 2017? I can’t seem to reproduce the issue on my machine. (By the way, the link includes an extra underscore. The correct one is https://github.com/mozilla/multi-account-containers/issues/8... )

Yes, I can still reproduce it on 64. I'm on linux though.

On Linux, works for me. Using add-on version if that helps. There is a bug that opening a url via e.g. xdg isn't able to prevent default tab opening on first startup.

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by zbraniecki » Tue, Jan 29, 2019, 5:14 PM UTC

depr wrote: post #131

shaklee3 wrote: post #56

I remember about a year or two ago, there was a lot of press on HN about a new Firefox engine that made it extremely fast. Ever since then, I've only seen negative comments about Firefox. Did that just not pan out as much as people had expected?

There's a new CSS engine: https://hacks.mozilla.org/2017/08/inside-a-super-fast-css-en... but the new compositor, WebRender, has not been enabled yet ( https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1311790 ). I believe it will be enabled for Windows users in version 67.

Initially, we'll only enable it for users on Windows+Nvidia, to minimize the risk of regressing stability (GPU drivers is a fun minefield). Then we'll gradually extend the scope and focus on other drivers and platforms.

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by oosjc9a5 » Tue, Jan 29, 2019, 5:15 PM UTC

lugg wrote: post #100

Recently switched from chromium to Firefox. Very pleased with its performance. Android Firefox demolishes chrome too but probably just because I no longer need to download and render all the ads (thanks ublock.) While I was at it I also took the chance to migrate passwords out of Google land into Bitwarden. Session restore is amazing, my .cache is tmpfs but it still manages to instantly recover all my tabs on reboot.…

Firefox is faster than Chrome on Android? For me, even scrolling HN (i.e. no JS at all) was jittery and laggy.

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by cpeterso » Tue, Jan 29, 2019, 5:15 PM UTC

padenot wrote: post #153

leeoniya wrote: post #12

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dav1d is the state of the art currently, but i dont know if it's used by FF. https://code.videolan.org/videolan/dav1d

It is, however it's not enabled by default for now. It will be in a few releases after we figure about a couple issues with the build system.

For people that would like to follow along from home, here's the Firefox bug for switching to the dav1d decoder:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=dav1d

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by whalesalad » Tue, Jan 29, 2019, 5:15 PM UTC

pyr0hu wrote: post #112

Is it just me, or the font used by FF is changed on OSX? It's a bit crispier and it's not antialiased

Fonts are much beefier for me on OS X. Here is a side by side of Chrome looking at the same PR.

https://i.imgur.com/U5eQdqZ.png

https://i.imgur.com/wHKa4Zu.png

Edit: This made a difference for me, but it's also changed the feel of every UI element on my mac. I think it's a net win but will take getting used to: https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/aj3p2v/fonts_too_b...

tl;dr - disable 'use font smoothing when available' in system preferences. After killing and restarting Firefox everything looks normal.