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Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by depr »

shaklee3 wrote: post #56

I remember about a year or two ago, there was a lot of press on HN about a new Firefox engine that made it extremely fast. Ever since then, I've only seen negative comments about Firefox. Did that just not pan out as much as people had expected?

There's a new CSS engine: https://hacks.mozilla.org/2017/08/inside-a-super-fast-css-en... but the new compositor, WebRender, has not been enabled yet (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1311790). I believe it will be enabled for Windows users in version 67.

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by everdrive »

vforgione wrote: post #26
oosjc9a5 wrote: post #3

A question regarding the advertisements they show on the home page: https://www.neowin.net/news/firefox-640-is-now-showing-a-boo... Are these ads introduced with these updates, or does Firefox include a backdoor so the Mozilla Corporation can show whatever they want on your home page?

I was so excited when Quantum was released. I used it exclusively and was happy with the performance. Then Mozilla started back dooring ads and other promos and broke my trust. I’ve since gone back to Chrome. At least there Google has the decency to make it obvious you’re being tracked, and with the new privacy controls I (hopefully correctly) feel like I can exercise some control. Mozilla really needs to get right w…

Firefox's transgressions are debatable. Google's tracking is significantly worse. You can't equivocate the two. Even if you don't like Firefox for valid reasons.

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by asdashjdjhb »

Could any seniors give more information on what do they mean by this firefox update: A better video streaming experience for Windows users: Firefox now supports the next-generation, royalty-free video compression technology called AV1?

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by andy_ppp »

I have turned on Webrender in FF66a (nightly) and it’s fantastic; it sped up a site I quickly threw together for a friend no end [1] and almost everything with lots of graphical painting is buttery smooth.

Even though they are only starting in nightly to make it the default on Nvidia hardware it seems to work without incident so far on this 2016 AMD Radeon’d MacBook Pro.

[1] https://uparchitects.co.uk/

[2] https://discourse.mozilla.org/t/have-you-tested-webrender/16...

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by AsyncAwait »

shaklee3 wrote: post #56

I remember about a year or two ago, there was a lot of press on HN about a new Firefox engine that made it extremely fast. Ever since then, I've only seen negative comments about Firefox. Did that just not pan out as much as people had expected?

Nah, Quantum is fast. People are mostly complaining about some Mozilla management decisions, rather than technical ones.

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by stronglikedan »

lugg wrote: post #100

Recently switched from chromium to Firefox. Very pleased with its performance. Android Firefox demolishes chrome too but probably just because I no longer need to download and render all the ads (thanks ublock.) While I was at it I also took the chance to migrate passwords out of Google land into Bitwarden. Session restore is amazing, my .cache is tmpfs but it still manages to instantly recover all my tabs on reboot.…

+1 for Bitwarden - it's been fun to watch that product unfold.

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by SilasX »

brobdingnagians wrote: post #61
vishnu_ks wrote: post #46

I don't understand why Firefox doesn't include an option to download the .deb package instead of tar file for Ubuntu and Debian during release announcements. The market share is already shrinking and why make it harder for people to install or upgrade Firefox? Chrome does it. Why can't Firefox do that as well?

This brings up an interesting point about releasing software in general. If you spend huge amounts of time programming cool things and tuning every last knob, but then it is difficult for your average user to find out how to install and start to see all the cool things you've produced, when it would take far less time to just make an easy installer than it took you to make all the cool things, then there needs to be…

Which would be a valid point, if Mozilla's definition of "every last knob" didn't include such basic features as "customizable keyboard shortcuts" and "allowing unsigned side-loading of addons", which the product already had for the 15 years ending 2016.

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by mtgx »

wslh wrote: post #114

At the risk of a downvote storm, a few months ago I tried to switch from Chrome to Firefox until I had a call of two hours via Google Hangouts and Firefox started to degrade the voice until a point of no return. I don't know if this is common in very demanding "web apps".

Blame Google, not Mozilla. They're doing it on purpose and it's the main reason why more people should make the switch now before it's too late and nothing else works with Google's stuff but Chrome:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18697824

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/12/the-web-now-belongs-...

Google intends to kill Hangouts by the end of the year anyway:

https://www.theverge.com/2019/1/22/18193303/google-hangouts-...

I don't have any proof for this, but I think everything I've seen about Google's Invoice was also meant to kill the open email standards by convincing everyone that the proprietary "AI-enhanced" features of Invoice were worth it over interoperability with other email providers.

Thank goodness that app failed. They're still trying to do it through Gmail now, but it's going to be a much slower process and hopefully people will have enough time to catch on to them before it's too late.

Google is becoming a monopoly in the classical "evil company" sense - a monopoly that's no different than any other monopoly in the past, and that will try to exploit the users and kill competition in the same way others have done it before. More people should start to seriously consider this before going more "all-in" with Google than they already have.

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by CalRobert »

wslh wrote: post #114

At the risk of a downvote storm, a few months ago I tried to switch from Chrome to Firefox until I had a call of two hours via Google Hangouts and Firefox started to degrade the voice until a point of no return. I don't know if this is common in very demanding "web apps".

For whatever reason (I hope not nefarious) Google apps perform horribly on FF.

I actually do suspect it's intentional, but have no way to really prove it.

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