I'd like to take a moment to recognize how stable an experience gmail has been for me and how transformative a tool it has been for my life. Rock On you crazy Gmail elves, you!
Gmail Services Global Outage
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Re: Gmail Services Global Outage
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
What are the main factors that could lead to such a situation?
Well, I would say that the complexity of complexity is exponential. In the aerospace industry, to get that last percent of a percent, 2 completely independent implementations of everything are used. Then to get another decimal, you add 2 more implementations and a consensus algorithm. Then of course you add static/unit/api/integration/stress/fuzz test suits for each implementation. Then test the tests. Then have a hu…
>After a while you can spend the entire GDP of the world and you wont be able to add another availability decimal point.
And in a couple decades, when the world GDP is a bit higher, formal methods will become practical in real-life situations.
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#23Semi-related, but can anyone suggest good open source email client? I'm working on several computers with macos/linux and Gmail isn't slow only on my deep learning rig, so I'm looking for something to replace it.
Could you list the specifications (roughly) such as amount of RAM, processor (cores/speed/architecture or era) on your "deep learning" rig and on your "several computers"? I'm curious what it takes for the new gmail web interface to run smoothly without being frustrating.
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#24Semi-related, but can anyone suggest good open source email client? I'm working on several computers with macos/linux and Gmail isn't slow only on my deep learning rig, so I'm looking for something to replace it.
I've been happily using Thunderbird for 10+ years. Supports Windows, Mac, and Linux natively.
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#25Semi-related, but can anyone suggest good open source email client? I'm working on several computers with macos/linux and Gmail isn't slow only on my deep learning rig, so I'm looking for something to replace it.
I can definitely recommend Mailspring[0].
It has occasional quirks, but very stable.
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#26Semi-related, but can anyone suggest good open source email client? I'm working on several computers with macos/linux and Gmail isn't slow only on my deep learning rig, so I'm looking for something to replace it.
mutt.
The traditional whine: "But everybody uses HTML!"
The solution:
in .mailcap:
text/html; lynx -dump %s; copiousoutput; nametemplate=%s.html
In .muttrc:
auto_view text/html application/x-gunzip text/calendar
alternative_order text/plain text text/html application/postscript
mutt can be used as a pure IMAP client or to read local mail delivered to mboxes or maildirs.
If you are the sort of person who builds up 250,000 messages on your IMAP server, guess what: mutt handles it better than any other client.
mutt is not point and click. mutt is usable by people who can read, and is powerful for people who can spend twenty minutes reading the docs.
Re: Gmail Services Global Outage
#27Well Microsoft had their annual mail outage the other day... I guess they could have coordinated a bit better to get them done and out of the way at the same time.
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#28As someone working on a mail service of my own, this is heartening to see. Even Google messes up sometimes.
Yup. And that's by design. Stability is asymptotic and increasingly expensive to reach toward 100%. There's a very intentional "this is good enough" point.
Well, the value they get from being able to read your private emails is not high enough to warrant 100%....
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#29They just announced a price hike for personal accounts from 5 to 6 dollars per user too.
Re: Gmail Services Global Outage
#30Semi-related, but can anyone suggest good open source email client? I'm working on several computers with macos/linux and Gmail isn't slow only on my deep learning rig, so I'm looking for something to replace it.
mutt. The traditional whine: "But everybody uses HTML!" The solution: in .mailcap: text/html; lynx -dump %s; copiousoutput; nametemplate=%s.html In .muttrc: auto_view text/html application/x-gunzip text/calendar alternative_order text/plain text text/html application/postscript mutt can be used as a pure IMAP client or to read local mail delivered to mboxes or maildirs. If you are the sort of person who builds up 250…
I just switched over to neomutt a while back, after years of Thunderbird and evolution before that. I don't know why I didn't switch earlier. It's beautiful.