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Parmigiano-Reggiano: Italy's 'practically perfect' food

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Re: Parmigiano-Reggiano: Italy's 'practically perfect' food

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

eh... 6 months is really stretching it! Once it has been cut from the wheel, the usable life will be a few weeks maybe a couple months max if properly stored. While it may not mold, it will desiccate and become hard and waxy. You might not be able to tell if you're just grating it finely, but if you're cutting off slivers it will taste different when it's been sitting for too long in the fridge. Local Italian and gou…

real parmigiano doesn't have preservatives so it'll mold in a month after opening; grana padano usually does have and will last longer; both will become dry in time after opening. in genera both tastes ok even when they dry out, albeit they gets saltier; if one eats cheese slowly, I'd suggest to get one relatively younger (i.e. 9 months) so as the flavor matures it doesn't get overly strong. they both contain a lot o…

> real parmigiano doesn't have preservatives

Salt is a preservative.

Re: Parmigiano-Reggiano: Italy's 'practically perfect' food

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>Few of these fans would recognise much of what’s sold today. The white flakes many of us grew up shaking from a green can aren’t parmesan, not even close. Within the EU, both Parmigiano-Reggiano and its anglicised version, “parmesan”, are legally registered terms protected by the PDO – protected designation of origin – label since 1996. But in the US, the law protects only the name “Parmigiano-Reggiano” (In the EU,…

eh... 6 months is really stretching it! Once it has been cut from the wheel, the usable life will be a few weeks maybe a couple months max if properly stored. While it may not mold, it will desiccate and become hard and waxy. You might not be able to tell if you're just grating it finely, but if you're cutting off slivers it will taste different when it's been sitting for too long in the fridge. Local Italian and gou…

Spot on. Always buy it just cut, when possible. It does make a difference in taste.

Re: Parmigiano-Reggiano: Italy's 'practically perfect' food

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It really saddens me that many folks have only had the generic, relatively flavorless knock-off. The real stuff is a different cheese entirely.

The real stuff, for my palate, is the single best food there is. It’s that good.

Some prosciutto di Parma and Parmasean-reggiano is my last meal.

Re: Parmigiano-Reggiano: Italy's 'practically perfect' food

#25
There's a lot of woo in that article. Yes, Parmesan is made to strict rules; no, i probably couldn't tell it from Grana Padano if i was blindfolded.

And there's an effort from Wisconsin that is apparently very good:

https://www.thekitchn.com/a-morethanworthy-replacement-f-132...

Re: Parmigiano-Reggiano: Italy's 'practically perfect' food

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It really saddens me that many folks have only had the generic, relatively flavorless knock-off. The real stuff is a different cheese entirely.

Exactly. The only thing preventing me from eating a pound of parmigiano is the price. Sad parmesan powder? Nope. It makes me sad that we have to move the product around the world to consume it because it is just made at 1 precise location, emitting a lot of CO2.

> The only thing preventing me from eating a pound of parmigiano is the price.

That's the only thing?

And just because something was produced locally doesn't necessarily mean it has less carbon footprint than one produced halfway around the world.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1553456/Greener-by-m...

Re: Parmigiano-Reggiano: Italy's 'practically perfect' food

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post #25

There's a lot of woo in that article. Yes, Parmesan is made to strict rules; no, i probably couldn't tell it from Grana Padano if i was blindfolded. And there's an effort from Wisconsin that is apparently very good: https://www.thekitchn.com/a-morethanworthy-replacement-f-132...

As someone who grew up in the Parmigiano Reggiano production zone and whose family is member of a Parmigiano co-op, I can tell you that it is possible to taste the difference between Parmigiano, grana padano, and the parmesan clones.

It boils down to what you use the cheese for. If you just want to grate it on some pasta, you can use whatever. If you are making tortellini, you better use the 36-month cheese from your casaro (cheese maker).

Edit: Compare the picture of the cheese you link to this one: http://www.caseificioboiardo.it/en/eshop/parmigiano-reggiano...

You can notice right away that the cheese has a different consistency. The American clone is smoother (it looks almost like plastic). The 12-month Parmigiano Reggiano (the youngest "age" that the cheese can be sold as PR) is textured. That signals that the amount of moisture in the American clone is off and that will effect the aging of the cheese and ultimately its taste.

Re: Parmigiano-Reggiano: Italy's 'practically perfect' food

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>Few of these fans would recognise much of what’s sold today. The white flakes many of us grew up shaking from a green can aren’t parmesan, not even close. Within the EU, both Parmigiano-Reggiano and its anglicised version, “parmesan”, are legally registered terms protected by the PDO – protected designation of origin – label since 1996. But in the US, the law protects only the name “Parmigiano-Reggiano” (In the EU,…

Not everyone needs Parmagiano-Reggiano. You can buy parmesan to put on your microwaved pasta and it will be Very Good(TM). No need to waste good quality DOP on that. As with all cheeses, "parmesan" labeled cheeses will also vary in quality. Go for what your wallet + taste buds tell you to pick. There really are good quality "parmesan" brands out there. Maybe not the cheapest stuff in your grocery store, but as long a…

That might be all nice and true, but then why the desperate need from manufacturers to appear as close as original as possible to trick and lure some unknowing shoppers?

If you make a copy, and you are proud how good it is, make it clear and add what makes yours so special. The discussion it seems is more about cheaper knock-offs that many people don't distinguish from original because they don't know exact words in names and other signs to look for. These often come with subpar ingredients and additives/conservants as noted in the article - which is something many people are concerned about, even if taste is OK.

EU might be a pile of crap in many aspects, but protection of local, traditional products is definitely something I support and it seems to be done well.

Re: Parmigiano-Reggiano: Italy's 'practically perfect' food

#29

>Few of these fans would recognise much of what’s sold today. The white flakes many of us grew up shaking from a green can aren’t parmesan, not even close. Within the EU, both Parmigiano-Reggiano and its anglicised version, “parmesan”, are legally registered terms protected by the PDO – protected designation of origin – label since 1996. But in the US, the law protects only the name “Parmigiano-Reggiano” (In the EU,…

I buy parmagiano-regianno and find it goes off and starts going moudly at the back (circular bit) after a couple of weeks.

Do you keep it in the fridge, wrapped, what?

How do you store it so it lasts so long?

Re: Parmigiano-Reggiano: Italy's 'practically perfect' food

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post #13

>Few of these fans would recognise much of what’s sold today. The white flakes many of us grew up shaking from a green can aren’t parmesan, not even close. Within the EU, both Parmigiano-Reggiano and its anglicised version, “parmesan”, are legally registered terms protected by the PDO – protected designation of origin – label since 1996. But in the US, the law protects only the name “Parmigiano-Reggiano” (In the EU,…

Not everyone needs Parmagiano-Reggiano. You can buy parmesan to put on your microwaved pasta and it will be Very Good(TM). No need to waste good quality DOP on that. As with all cheeses, "parmesan" labeled cheeses will also vary in quality. Go for what your wallet + taste buds tell you to pick. There really are good quality "parmesan" brands out there. Maybe not the cheapest stuff in your grocery store, but as long a…

> You can buy parmesan to put on your microwaved pasta

Jesus Christ you almost gave me a heart attack

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