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Ask HN: Do you enjoy working in a coworking space?

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Re: Ask HN: Do you enjoy working in a coworking space?

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I've tried these 3 things: 1) Having my own office: PROS: no disturbances CONS: (even) more expensive than you might think, especially once you factor in heating/internet/coffee. Kind of boring with absolutely nobody to talk to and nothing going on. Can be a bit weird to invite people over. 2) Working from home: PROS: easy to get to work CONS: more distractions than you might think, especially if you have a family wi…

I do work from home and am father of two small kids (3 and 1 years), both kids and my wife are stayign at home.

From the begining we set strict rules: my office is off place: nobody except of me can go inside, kids are taught that when I am inside I am not home and they just can't see me. I am also not going inside my office outside of my business hours.

With those rules in place it feels like having office outside with minimal commute.

Re: Ask HN: Do you enjoy working in a coworking space?

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No. It sucks but I make do with headphones. WeWork is the noisiest fuckig shit show in existence.

I can't stand how poorly sound-isolated the conference rooms and offices are. I have literally been standing outside a conference room, waiting for my meeting to start, and overheard the details of a company shutting down. The private offices that we pay good money for aren't much better. Because they use single-paned glass (cheap) you can hear every foot step, conversation, or other random noise from any office or hallway near you.

What's even more hilarious? Our door locks seized closed for a couple of days, and their fix was to just open all of the locks and leave the entire WeWork unlocked with a single security guard there during business hours. Ridiculous.

Re: Ask HN: Do you enjoy working in a coworking space?

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I tend to prefer cafes over co-working spaces, because I get about the same value (maybe even better coffee!), but at a much lower price.

As a cafe customer however it's irritating that you're taking up space for someone who'd like to sit down and drink their coffee. Or to put it another way: you're saving yourself money but (potentially) at the expense of the cafe owner who loses walk-in customers b/c his place is filled with barely-paying squatters.

"irritating"?

Cafe owners are free to allow laptop users or ask people to stay for a short time.

Re: Ask HN: Do you enjoy working in a coworking space?

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I've been a solo dev for about 7 years now, these are my findings:

# Working from home ('free')

Working from home is great for about 6 months, then isolation kicks in and the divide between work and relaxing disappears. Given my situation (single, no kids) I quickly become very lonely. A separate in house office helps for a separation between work and not-work, as long as you have the discipline not to use your office space for something else. (locking your office after work hours helps).

# Renting an office (~1000 eur/month)

Can quickly become lonely as well, and can be quite expensive once you add costs for the cafeteria, internet, insurance etc. It does give you social interaction during lunch breaks, and no disturbance during work. There is also a very distinct separation of work and relax time. I did this for a couple of years, but once again I felt lonely and was craving for social interaction, a.k.a. colleagues.

# Coworking place (~300 eur/month)

This is my current setup, I rent a fixed desk in a large open space. In this space there are about ~8 fixed desks and about 10 flex spaces. We have sound insulated phone booths, so it's usually pretty quiet here. My 'coworkers' don't understand my work but that's ok. I use noise-canceling headphones when I need to concentrate. Personally I love it, it's been my favorite setup so far.

Re: Ask HN: Do you enjoy working in a coworking space?

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I haven't had a great experience with co-working at all, I wish there was something like Breather where I live.

Has anyone here had experience with Breather.com?

I work from home but would really like to tap into that "private space" vibe now and then. Regus is available here but it feels like going to the "PC room" in 1999.

Re: Ask HN: Do you enjoy working in a coworking space?

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I prefer working at a cafe. Coworkings remind me about awful jobs at office spaces. At a cafe, I feel more freedom that I can change my working place every day. If you pay for coworking, you have to go there every day. What is the difference between an office job and a freelance job? With freelancing, you can work from anywhere. Startups and corporates move in coworking because it might be cheaper to rent.

Some coworking spaces do have better atmosphere than a cafe. But those can be deep in the city, expensive, high traffic, which would also feel like an office job.

Re: Ask HN: Do you enjoy working in a coworking space?

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I can block certain people from Facebook and Linked In, but those people are very active in coworking spaces. They're the type who love to mingle and promote themselves as experts, talk above others, completely ignoring that other people are focused on doing their own thing.

At least if you work in a company open office, your boss tries to prevent it from happening.

Re: Ask HN: Do you enjoy working in a coworking space?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because coworking spaces are full of employees of other companies, while working cafes are usually solo people working in super focussed fashion. There's no foosball table. No startup kool-aid. It's the same with private members clubs. Usually it is the founders, investors, lawyers, reasonably successful people in whatever field they work in. The networking opportunity is immense, and it's usually a better atmosphere…

Your posts are very black-and-white. Not all coworking spaces are kool-aid-foosball, nor are all cafes filled with successful people just longing to network with you.

Not just that but sounds like a completely different world from my experience. I travel around and work from coworking spaces a lot, I have seen more than ~20 different ones but have never seen any coworking space with a ping pong table, foosball table, big TVs with playstations or a large amount of people working for a specific company.

Re: Ask HN: Do you enjoy working in a coworking space?

#50
I echo the same sentiment as other commenters in this thread. I have tried all possible routes and here's my findings:

1. Working from home

This is possibly the worst decision I've made because, the disconnect between work and leisure disappears and either of the two things will happen - you will either end up working 24/7 or you will relax more often than you would in a proper office environment.

If you have a large house with an office room in the ground floor and the rest of your rooms upstairs, it can work. But then, there is very little friction to stop you from moving out of that room to watch TV, play with your dog, etc.

The other thing is it's super hard to control external distractions - like guests visiting, delivery guys, etc.

I don't recommend working from home if you can avoid it. But I do understand not everyone can afford office spaces and home offices are basically free.

2. Proper office spaces

I rented out an office space with a provider for about a year. It was very expensive and on top of a city center, but the experience was amazing. I had a private room for myself with a really beautiful view of the beach nearby. There was a receptionist I hired, who would take care of and filter out all the noise. I had absolute tranquility and was very, very productive.

In my view, this is the best bang for your buck as when clients visit your office, they know you're not joking around and you have proper office space that gives them the confidence, especially if they're corporates.

3. Co-working spaces

The idea seems nice on paper, but it was really terrible. It's only terrible because I have to pay money for it. It's literally a Starbucks experience you pay $300-400 per month for. People will fight for charging ports, talk so loud, keep interrupting you for random reasons, etc.

I absolutely think co-working spaces have the least value for money. In fact the co-working space owners know this themselves, which is why you will often see them try to attract customers by saying they host events, invite investors every month, things like that. But, the value isn't there for me.

4. Coffeeshops and Public libraries

These days, I'm on constant travel and hence I usually find out the nearest public libraries and take my laptop there. Usually they have ample space, so I'm not taking away any readers' space and it's dead silent and as a bonus you get free Wi-Fi too. The next best alternative is Starbucks, but you better invest in a good noise cancellation headphone (I use a Bose).

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