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Re: Netflix Flexes

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Post by aviraldg »

iamgopal wrote: post #119
2bitencryption wrote: post #25

My takeaway from Bird Box is that if Netflix wants to make any of their original content one of the most-watched media events of the year, they can do it, regardless of the quality of the content itself. All it takes is for them to slip it in to people's "custom, curated" lists at a higher frequency, and maybe do a little subtle social-media engineering on Reddit/Facebook, and bam: instant box office smash of a deriv…

Indian Netflix and Amazon prime are making originals that are border line porn with no story or acting or what so ever. They know one simple thing. Sex sells.

Do you have specific examples in mind? I've really liked most of their original content so far, like Sacred Games, Mirzapur, Rajma Chawal, Selection Day, etc.

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Post by wewake »

iamgopal wrote: post #119
2bitencryption wrote: post #25

My takeaway from Bird Box is that if Netflix wants to make any of their original content one of the most-watched media events of the year, they can do it, regardless of the quality of the content itself. All it takes is for them to slip it in to people's "custom, curated" lists at a higher frequency, and maybe do a little subtle social-media engineering on Reddit/Facebook, and bam: instant box office smash of a deriv…

Indian Netflix and Amazon prime are making originals that are border line porn with no story or acting or what so ever. They know one simple thing. Sex sells.

What are those originals? I haven't come across such content made specifically for Indian viewers as you imply.

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Post by talltimtom »

2bitencryption wrote: post #25

My takeaway from Bird Box is that if Netflix wants to make any of their original content one of the most-watched media events of the year, they can do it, regardless of the quality of the content itself. All it takes is for them to slip it in to people's "custom, curated" lists at a higher frequency, and maybe do a little subtle social-media engineering on Reddit/Facebook, and bam: instant box office smash of a deriv…

They did more than just “a little reddit/facebook”, there where more posters in busses/metros/buildings than for any other single movie everywhere. They went big on all types of add spending, in addition to pushing it on their own platform.

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Post by bonesss »

magicalhippo wrote: post #56
iambateman wrote: post #2

I’ve said this before, but I expect Netflix to continue to flex their muscle until they have an average subscription cost of $35-40/month. There’s so much room in the entertainment market for them to save customers $50/mo, offer them more, and increase their revenue.

I doubt that. Keeping subscription cost low means people will not view it as a huge expense and are much more likely to keep the subscription rather than cancel it, even if they use it very little. There's a line though, where it moves on over into the high-enough-to-notice expense category, where people will be much more inclined to cancel if they're not using it significantly. If Netflix had cost me $20 or more a m…

I think tiered pricing makes more sense at that level of subscription.

Netflix is global, so at some level their product and pricing has to reflect what the "lower middle class" in Turkey, China, and Brazil can bear. We know that cable providers have succeeded in getting more for less in this market, so Netflix could profitably charge more for more in some regions.

I would guess that divide can't be reconciled, but by launching another layer of content/service at a higher price-per-month could let them maximize revenue. Netflix+ or something, paired to exploit some newer technology that isn't central to other services...

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Post by mayoff »

nojvek wrote: post #107
giancarlostoro wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And some of them are pretty damn good depending on your interest. Theres a few decent mecha ones at least. I am sure they will eventually land the rights to a solid winner. I do like the end result too lots of subs in different languages and I feel like they dub it in different languages too. The best of both worlds for any type of anime fan.

Any good Anime you recommend ? I loved Violet Evergreen. It was very well done as an animation. The others are “your lie in April”. That legit made me sob. I usually don’t get that emotional. (Although not a Netflix original).

Death Note was fantastic. Much better than I expected after reading a synopsis of the premise.

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Post by thirdsun »

iambateman wrote: post #2

I’ve said this before, but I expect Netflix to continue to flex their muscle until they have an average subscription cost of $35-40/month. There’s so much room in the entertainment market for them to save customers $50/mo, offer them more, and increase their revenue.

And one way to get there might be live sports. The money I throw at Sky Germany to be able to watch Bundesliga (football - don't call it soccer.) is ridiculous - I'd be happy to spent a fair share of that amount to watch it via Netflix.

I'm currently subscribed to DAZN, a european live sports streaming service that covers all kinds of international sports and leagues and for 10 € monthly the available content is stunning. Having that content on Netflix would be very welcome, particularly due to their better streaming technology which is very important when it comes to live streaming.

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Post by alexgmcm »

nojvek wrote: post #107
giancarlostoro wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And some of them are pretty damn good depending on your interest. Theres a few decent mecha ones at least. I am sure they will eventually land the rights to a solid winner. I do like the end result too lots of subs in different languages and I feel like they dub it in different languages too. The best of both worlds for any type of anime fan.

Any good Anime you recommend ? I loved Violet Evergreen. It was very well done as an animation. The others are “your lie in April”. That legit made me sob. I usually don’t get that emotional. (Although not a Netflix original).

Code Geass and Death Note were the best for me.

Re: Netflix Flexes

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Post by thirdsun »

ajcodez wrote: post #47

Netflix should create less content, not more. I find it low quality and will discount titles with Netflix logo that otherwise look interesting. I’m also a Mubi and Amazon Prime subscriber. It’s surprising to hear the original content is working for the company.

I love Mubi for their taste and community of cineasts. However that 30 films a month model makes it a non-starter to me - the selection is just to limited. I feel somewhat guilty but I basically use them as a giant movie database with excellent curation and lists for free.

Re: Netflix Flexes

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Post by Semaphor »

lsc wrote: post #54
FreeKill wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What I also find interesting is the fact that Netflix doesn't necessarily even need the "flex" to succeed. Their push on bird box could have failed miserably, and they really wouldn't have suffered greatly, whereas Disney's push of A Wrinkle in Time probably hurt, since the movie ultimately flopped and their only chance to recoup costs was after the huge investment. Netflix's goal is quite distinct from much of its c…

Yeah... I mean, when this switch occurred (away from having a wide selection of classics towards being more of a cable channel with their own custom content) I canceled my subscription. I switched to amazon video... I can't say I'm always thrilled with the video quality, but amazon video usually has what I want to watch, and they make watching it low effort (They usually charge me a few dollars to watch it, but if I'…

Amazon has one huge problem for me: Language. I'm in Germany. I do not want dubbed movies/shows. I need English subtitles (translated subs are useless but I need subs to understand what's being said during loud scenes). Amazon usually (less than Netflix though) has OV, but subs are almost exclusively in German.

Netflix, on the other hand, has almost everything in English with English subs (exceptions are foreign language shows and most anime)

Of course, it doesn't help Amazon that their interface is atrocious and that they have ads. (Well, I mean Netflix is working towards making their interface worse, but for now, they are still miles ahead)

If I wouldn't get Prime Video for free with my normal prime subscription for shipping, I'd never use it. I barely ever use it as is.

Re: Netflix Flexes

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Post by Semaphor »

lh7777 wrote: post #104
happybuy wrote: post #98

All the signs indicate that Netflix has become a user hostile company that is prioritising ongoing user engagement and stickiness over their users needs. It's starting to remind me of another company which at one point in their evolution prioritised user engagement over everything else – Facebook. Once this occurs, it is a long slippery slope which leads to a series of user hostile internal decisions which ultimately…

I think their worst decision of late is to include auto-playing "trailers" (with sound!) when you pause for more than a second on a title. Between that and the lack of a decent "browse by category" interface you mentioned, I rarely bother using the TV UI to discover content. Googling "what's good on netflix" works much better for me. At least you can still disable the auto-play next episode "feature".

> auto-playing "trailers" (with sound!)

I've read about this a few times. If you disable it once, does it get disabled permanently? Because Netflix (unlike the Amazon Prime Video ads) never plays trailers with sound for me.

> auto-play next episode "feature"

I'd certainly call it a feature. I'd hate having to manually click every time I want to see a new episode.

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