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When a Bike Company Put a TV on Its Box, Shipping Damages Went Down (2017)

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Re: When a Bike Company Put a TV on Its Box, Shipping Damages Went Down (2017)

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Post by misev »

justinhensley wrote: post #31

I've always been curious about the shipping process. I have met or know 7 people who work/worked at the shipping hub in my city. I always ask them how the packages are handled. Every one of them said that they (and all of their coworkers) handle all packages on a scale ranging from rough to purposefully damaging. One guy told me how he targets boxes marked Fragile for extra abuse when he's exhausted/angry/having a ba…

I've observed something similar with suitcase handling at airports, where they are thrown around and piled up like it's typically done with bags of rice for example.

Re: When a Bike Company Put a TV on Its Box, Shipping Damages Went Down (2017)

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Post by justinhensley »

saagarjha wrote: post #46
mikeash wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s easier to be rough than to be gentle, so if there are no consequences to being rough, that’s naturally how it’ll end up.

In the parent comments, it seems like the package handlers are being deliberately rough, i.e. putting in extra work, to ruin these packages.

I did not intend it that way. They handle something on the order of thousands of packages per shift. They aren't putting in extra work to be rough with even most of them.

Re: When a Bike Company Put a TV on Its Box, Shipping Damages Went Down (2017)

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Post by gumby »

metaphor wrote: post #47
justinhensley wrote: post #31

I've always been curious about the shipping process. I have met or know 7 people who work/worked at the shipping hub in my city. I always ask them how the packages are handled. Every one of them said that they (and all of their coworkers) handle all packages on a scale ranging from rough to purposefully damaging. One guy told me how he targets boxes marked Fragile for extra abuse when he's exhausted/angry/having a ba…

> One guy gleefully told me how he targets boxes marked Fragile for extra abuse! A close friend who owns a UPS franchise warned me of this behavior and advised against placing any indication of fragility on the box. If I recall the threshold correctly, $1,000+ declared-value packages are identified and set aside in a separate group within the store. When a driver comes by to pick up daily packages, the store clerk al…

You pay a premium for that high value declaration which means what you are really paying is a premium to have your package not kicked. This is like the airlines who have unbundled seat size and the right to bring a carry-on.

Re: When a Bike Company Put a TV on Its Box, Shipping Damages Went Down (2017)

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Post by coygui »

justinhensley wrote: post #31

I've always been curious about the shipping process. I have met or know 7 people who work/worked at the shipping hub in my city. I always ask them how the packages are handled. Every one of them said that they (and all of their coworkers) handle all packages on a scale ranging from rough to purposefully damaging. One guy told me how he targets boxes marked Fragile for extra abuse when he's exhausted/angry/having a ba…

Similar story happened in school as ta, if a student did something bad or annoyed the TAs, they would Target the student and give a bad or zero grade on problems that can not give a back/white answer. This is usually on marking final exams because few students will review the marking and thus few if any consequences will happen.

Re: When a Bike Company Put a TV on Its Box, Shipping Damages Went Down (2017)

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Post by saagarjha »

justinhensley wrote: post #62
saagarjha wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the parent comments, it seems like the package handlers are being deliberately rough, i.e. putting in extra work, to ruin these packages.

I did not intend it that way. They handle something on the order of thousands of packages per shift. They aren't putting in extra work to be rough with even most of them.

> Every one of them said that they (and all of their coworkers) handle all packages on a scale ranging from rough to purposefully damaging. One guy told me how he targets boxes marked Fragile for extra abuse when he's exhausted/angry/having a bad day.

But it does look like at least some are worth the extra effort to damage?

Re: When a Bike Company Put a TV on Its Box, Shipping Damages Went Down (2017)

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Post by floatingatoll »

whatshisface wrote: post #3

I've often wondered about what you would discover if you were to send accelerometers through various channels, over various distances, and inside of various packages. A database of carrier/packaging/haul distance/acceleration history tuples would be a valuable B2B product for many manufacturers.

You would discover business proprietary information that FedEx and UPS certainly must be collecting every day in their supply chains already today.

Re: When a Bike Company Put a TV on Its Box, Shipping Damages Went Down (2017)

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Post by [deleted] »

justinhensley wrote: post #31

I've always been curious about the shipping process. I have met or know 7 people who work/worked at the shipping hub in my city. I always ask them how the packages are handled. Every one of them said that they (and all of their coworkers) handle all packages on a scale ranging from rough to purposefully damaging. One guy told me how he targets boxes marked Fragile for extra abuse when he's exhausted/angry/having a ba…

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Re: When a Bike Company Put a TV on Its Box, Shipping Damages Went Down (2017)

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Post by gumby »

MRD85 wrote: post #30
The_suffocated wrote: post #23

The effect of this trick will diminish quickly when everyone copies it. I wonder why this bike company was eager to reveal their trick if it was so effective. Perhaps the free advertisements they gets from news reports are more worthwhile?

Once this trick becomes widely know then TV manufacturers will see a spike in damaged goods after they've benefited for so long.

Not to mention all the TVs damaged by disappointed bike thieves.

Re: When a Bike Company Put a TV on Its Box, Shipping Damages Went Down (2017)

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Post by jonknee »

grawprog wrote: post #22
switch007 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only certain high-end business/first seats I assume? I can't believe a standard economy seat costs $200,000+

https://247wallst.com/aerospace-defense/2014/06/03/why-a-boe... For some perspective a Boeing 747 costs $357,000,000 they have a seating capacity of 416. 416 x $200,000 is only $83,200,000 so...honestly...I could see it.

It's hard to say how much anything actually costs in aviation because no one pays list price and are outfitted per the buyers' specs (why airlines all have their own in cabin look). Discounts are usually north of 50% off "list". Economy style seats don't have a lot going on and definitely don't cost the same as a Lambo.

You can even buy your own if you want to be uncomfortable in your own home:

http://usedairlineseats.com/product/set-of-coach-class-tripl...

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