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H-1B: Oracle favored hiring foreign graduates of US colleges over American grads

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Re: H-1B: Oracle favored hiring foreign graduates of US colleges over American grads

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I think you meant to post this on another thread, like https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19000109

Re: H-1B: Oracle favored hiring foreign graduates of US colleges over American grads

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Slightly off-topic, but there's something about H-1B abuse that the vast majority of people in the SV bubble don't realize. H-1B appears to hurt the poor.

No, I'm not talking about struggling coders in India who dream of a life in Seattle. I'm talking about the really hand-to-mouth poor who apparently rely on seasonal H-1B visas to feed their families.

For example, there was a report on Radio New Zealand this week about how dirt-poor Samoans can't get H-1B's to go to American Samoa to work in its last fish cannery because all of the American visas have been slurped up by the mainland tech industry.

I know H-1B's are supposed to be for specialists, and according to Wikipedia: "A specialty occupation requires the application of specialized knowledge and a bachelor's degree or the equivalent of work experience."

But I suspect that the "specialist" requirement is lifted for U.S. territories so they can get the workers they need. There are a great number of mainland labor rules that are relaxed, voided, or otherwise not valid in U.S. territories, so I wonder if this is one of them.

Anyway, something to ponder.

Re: H-1B: Oracle favored hiring foreign graduates of US colleges over American grads

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Good time to plug this utility, swiss army knife for websockets: https://github.com/vi/websocat Author is extremely nice as well.

I think you meant to post this on another thread, like https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19000109

Oh yeah.. thanks a lot my man

Re: H-1B: Oracle favored hiring foreign graduates of US colleges over American grads

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Slightly off-topic, but there's something about H-1B abuse that the vast majority of people in the SV bubble don't realize. H-1B appears to hurt the poor. No, I'm not talking about struggling coders in India who dream of a life in Seattle. I'm talking about the really hand-to-mouth poor who apparently rely on seasonal H-1B visas to feed their families. For example, there was a report on Radio New Zealand this week ab…

Agriculture (including aquaculture) work visas are a different category:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-2A_visa

Re: H-1B: Oracle favored hiring foreign graduates of US colleges over American grads

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you meant to post this on another thread, like https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19000109

Oh yeah.. thanks a lot my man

That’s not very nice.

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Re: H-1B: Oracle favored hiring foreign graduates of US colleges over American grads

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Granted that H-1B visas should ostensibly be filled only for positions where it is difficult to find qualified American citizens or permanent residents, but in all honesty are the Department of Labor's allegations really that surprising?

In the Bay Area, qualified job candidates are so scarce that it's quite common for citizens/permanent-residents to change jobs frequently. H1-B candidates are attractive for companies because it is harder for them to switch jobs. Companies can lock these employees for longer, and they can pay them less.

Rather than going after the companies, shouldn't we be focusing on fixing the H-1B visa process instead? It almost seems like the government has set up a broken process for companies to take advantage of, and instead of fixing things, they blame the companies.

Re: H-1B: Oracle favored hiring foreign graduates of US colleges over American grads

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Slightly off-topic, but there's something about H-1B abuse that the vast majority of people in the SV bubble don't realize. H-1B appears to hurt the poor. No, I'm not talking about struggling coders in India who dream of a life in Seattle. I'm talking about the really hand-to-mouth poor who apparently rely on seasonal H-1B visas to feed their families. For example, there was a report on Radio New Zealand this week ab…

Agriculture (including aquaculture) work visas are a different category: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-2A_visa

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Re: H-1B: Oracle favored hiring foreign graduates of US colleges over American grads

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With the recent articles doing rounds about the feds Looking into Oracle paying minorities and women less, this seems part of the scheme to basically get lower wage workers under H1B who they know will work like minions for long hours because their visas are tied to the job. It's a pretty standard way of gaming the H1B. Oracle is no different.
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