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Automation Agenda of the Davos Elite

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So when a significant portion of the population has no work because they have been replaced by machines, who will buy what the machines make (or do)?

Seems like a short sighted race to extinction.

Not everything that can be done should be done.

Footnote:in the long run if society survives the initial shock, I predict it will actually lead to a resurgence in artisanal crafts to manufacture bespoke items that are prized not because they are perfect or the best, but because they are unique and have a back story.

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...Good? Work is horrible? If a drop in the amount of work that needs to be done is actually a problem then that's a policy failure.

Exactly. And you see it with more than just automation. It's the "they took er jerbs!!! we need a wall to protect our way of life!" knee-jerk reaction.

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So when a significant portion of the population has no work because they have been replaced by machines, who will buy what the machines make (or do)? Seems like a short sighted race to extinction. Not everything that can be done should be done. Footnote:in the long run if society survives the initial shock, I predict it will actually lead to a resurgence in artisanal crafts to manufacture bespoke items that are prize…

>Footnote:in the long run if society survives the initial shock, I predict it will actually lead to a resurgence in artisanal crafts to manufacture bespoke items that are prized not because they are perfect or the best, but because they are unique and have a back story.

I'd say this has been happening for one or two decades already.

Re: Automation Agenda of the Davos Elite

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I think automation will succeed where humans hate to do the job because it's too monotonous, risky or unhealthy - fruit picking, Foxconn, mining etc. It also makes the most economic sense to automate those jobs. Knowledge workers' jobs on the other hand - it'll be much easier for employers to put downward pressure on the salaries of those jobs than to replace them with automation due to higher automation costs and risks.

If it works out like that and the displaced workers are supported by their governments with equivalent income that will be a net positive. Those whose skills are still in demand will have jobs, others will have UBI and not many will complain.

However we don't learn anything - UBI will never come in time and there will be a lot of needless suffering and upheaval as a result of hurried, ill-managed drive towards automation.

There is also the whole identity crisis thing - many people equate their worth with their job and not having one will make for a lot of unhappy people.

Interesting times indeed.

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So when a significant portion of the population has no work because they have been replaced by machines, who will buy what the machines make (or do)? Seems like a short sighted race to extinction. Not everything that can be done should be done. Footnote:in the long run if society survives the initial shock, I predict it will actually lead to a resurgence in artisanal crafts to manufacture bespoke items that are prize…

there is an infinite amount of work to be done. There are needs unfulfilled today because there arent enough people and therefore the price is too high.

There will always be work that machines cant do.

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...Good? Work is horrible? If a drop in the amount of work that needs to be done is actually a problem then that's a policy failure.

Fine, but as of right now I need work to pay for the education I got 4 years ago(50k), the doctor visits/ct scan I got this month(2k), and the food I need on my table every night.

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So when a significant portion of the population has no work because they have been replaced by machines, who will buy what the machines make (or do)? Seems like a short sighted race to extinction. Not everything that can be done should be done. Footnote:in the long run if society survives the initial shock, I predict it will actually lead to a resurgence in artisanal crafts to manufacture bespoke items that are prize…

What exactly do you mean? Answers like these are too chronocentric.

This automation will be no different than the early proto-hominid hunter put out of his job because someone made a spear. Or the scribes that died out because of the printing press.

Everything that can be automated will eventually be automated.

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