Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm no fanboy, believe me. But most of that is pretty accurate.
The iPad is magical?
Oracle and Apple Announce OpenJDK Project for Mac OS X
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Re: Oracle and Apple Announce OpenJDK Project for Mac OS X
#82Though I'm glad for this desicion, I can't help but wonder: what's in it for oracle? The puny 5% of desktops running mac os?
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#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
> only JRE that have passed the TCK (Java Compatibility Kit) get the patent waiver, No. That's not true. As long as your code is derived from OpenJDK (and unavoidably licensed under GPL), you are protected from patent lawsuits from Oracle (for technology contributed to OpenJDK). What it doesn't protect you from is trademark issues if you claim whatever thing you have is Java. You can say "pretty much compatible with…
It's ambiguous. Oracle's not the only company with patents in Java technology, the TCK patent protection clause is stronger than that in the GPL, in that it give you protection against non-Oracle patents that are part of Java. It's arguable that Oracle implicitly licences these as part of the GPL patent clause, but it's not watertight. Third-party implementations such as Harmony (and presumably GNU Classpath) obvious…
This is the nub of the matter.
Re: Oracle and Apple Announce OpenJDK Project for Mac OS X
#84“…the foundation for a new graphical client” Cocoa??
http://lists.apple.com/archives/Java-dev/2010/Nov/msg00104.h...
Re: Oracle and Apple Announce OpenJDK Project for Mac OS X
#85This is off-topic, but I'm amazed by the descriptions at the end of TFA (I know, I know, it's a press release, but still...) Oracle is the world’s most complete, open and integrated business software and hardware systems company. (...) Let's grant integrated and complete, but definitely not "open". Though this is dwarfed by Apple's incredible self-praise: Apple designs Macs, the best personal computers in the world,…
the project now has the backing of three of the biggest names in software
Hmm, who could they be?
Re: Oracle and Apple Announce OpenJDK Project for Mac OS X
#86"The enemy of my enemy is my friend." - proverb
Re: Oracle and Apple Announce OpenJDK Project for Mac OS X
#87I'm itching to take a look at Apple's "foundation for a new graphical client"
I wonder why they don't just release their existing AWT/Swing adaptations? Either they are afraid of people using the Mac OS style on Windows, or that by open sourcing the style, they loose their copyright to it, or the code is such as mess that they'd rather not release it into the open.
The new backend will only depend on OpenGL, which is much better for anyone who isn't looking to lock you into their format. Which, oddly enough, appears to be Apple's goal with it's handling of java.
Re: Oracle and Apple Announce OpenJDK Project for Mac OS X
#88This is really Oracle's news rather than Apple's.
It's actually a more important announcement for Apple though in light of their stopping development of their own JVM. This allows them to still be behind it without having to actually do the work.
To quote Mike Swingler (Apple java engineering): "Cheers all, we look forward to working with you in public!"
Sounds like the plan is to continue Apple's work as part of a respected open source project. Compared to developing in secret like they have been, what's not to like about that?
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#90I'm glad that they're not throwing everything away. I wonder if this will provide any benefit to the Linux OpenJDK.