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Continuing our work to improve recommendations on YouTube

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Re: Continuing our work to improve recommendations on YouTube

#64

YouTube suggestions are worthless now. Used to be if you were watching "Jack cooks a 4 course meal part 2" the recommended videos would be "Jack cooks a 4 course meal part 3", Part 1, and some other videos by the same user. Now it's a host of other unrelated bullshit.

A few weeks back I got a weird fan biopic of Himmler created by some account with the SS logo in their picture recommended to me after watching a video on some obscure DNS features. I reported it but it's still there.

Google is beyond broken. Chasing those engagement numbers on a forever treadmill, just hoping they inch up a little more at any cost.

Re: Continuing our work to improve recommendations on YouTube

#65

If they could simply make the "Not interested" feature work that would be great.

Seems to work fine for me. You just have to click "not interested" on every video of the topic that you don't like and after 5 times or so it stops recommending that topic.

Let's say you watched a video called "Top 10 most amazing things you never knew until today" and now the youtube algo recommends you a bunch of clickbait. Just hit "not interested" on every single clickbait video you see and eventually it stops showing you those videos unless you watch more of them.

Re: Continuing our work to improve recommendations on YouTube

#66

YouTube suggestions are worthless now. Used to be if you were watching "Jack cooks a 4 course meal part 2" the recommended videos would be "Jack cooks a 4 course meal part 3", Part 1, and some other videos by the same user. Now it's a host of other unrelated bullshit.

Good point, I hate how multi-part videos aren't automatically queued up. I also don't like getting videos queued that I've already seen.

Re: Continuing our work to improve recommendations on YouTube

#67

What really bugs me is when a video literally has "Episode 18" in the name, but somehow the recommendation list on the right side fails to find the one with "Episode 19". But if I want to go watch Episode 5 again or jump ahead to Episode 26, it's happy to help. Awesome.

You've summed up my frustrations, well.

Re: Continuing our work to improve recommendations on YouTube

#68
Why do they recommend the same five videos of a series (like Barefoot Contessa) over-and-over when I've watched them already?

I don't want to say "not interested" because I don't know what that means... I want a feature where it's like "more like this, but not this one in particular."

It's surprising they've been under Google's control for a very long time and yet their main recommendation algorithm still leaves a lot to be desired.

Re: Continuing our work to improve recommendations on YouTube

#69

YouTube suggestions are worthless now. Used to be if you were watching "Jack cooks a 4 course meal part 2" the recommended videos would be "Jack cooks a 4 course meal part 3", Part 1, and some other videos by the same user. Now it's a host of other unrelated bullshit.

I remember that! That system was so sensible, it was great when I was following the lessons on ExcelIsFun/VBAisFun. The next video in the series would play seamlessly.

Now, thanks to the all powerful algorithm, I can watch a video about a rescued pitbull living with his new family, and have it followed up by "10 times Ben Shapiro owned the libs".

Re: Continuing our work to improve recommendations on YouTube

#70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To take the position that people only believe stuff because it is fed to them is incredibly patronizing. Sure, the fundamental dynamic of social media (that immediate and direct feedback about what captures user attention is used to determine what users see) makes things more polarized, but people are polarized to begin with. Conservatives are conservatives because they have a fundamentally different outlook about th…

You're basically saying that well done propaganda doesn't work then, which is patently false. Watching polarizing YouTube videos isn't going to flip a bit, but constant exposure to a single perspective constantly reinforced is certainly going to influence your formation of beliefs. That's exactly what YouTube does with their recommendation system

No, that's not what I'm saying. I agree that propaganda and social media are problematic. But they can only be a problem if people pay attention. And nobody is forcing people to pay attention. Which gets to my point: people have pre-existing notions and inclinations before propaganda and social media can even have an effect.
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