We have always been at war with Eastasia
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Continuing our work to improve recommendations on YouTube
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#12They should introduce some features that allow better search or a hierarchical directory for ppl who like to pick and choose. Perhaps allow a more descriptive presentation of the creators themselves. Not everything needs to be a flat feed.
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#13We have always been at war with Eastasia
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Orwell's 1984.
"The world of Nineteen Eighty-Four exists in a state of perpetual war among the three major powers. Two of the three states are aligned against the third: Oceania and Eurasia against Eastasia or Eurasia and Eastasia against Oceania. However, as Goldstein's book points out, each superstate is so powerful that even an alliance of the other two cannot destroy it, which results in a continuing stalemate. From time to time, one of the states betrays its ally and sides with its former enemy. In Oceania, when that occurs, the Ministry of Truth rewrites history to make it appear that the current state of affairs is the way it has always been, and documents with contradictory information are destroyed in the memory hole." [0]
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nations_of_Nineteen_Eighty-Fou...
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#14Long overdue. Maybe in a few months I can watch a Joe Rogan podcast video without tainting my YouTube recommendations for the next year with Ben Shapiro-style clickbait.
On the other hand, I wouldn't know who Ben Shapiro is without having watched Rogan videos. It's an important info to have, because it tells you what people are interested in, and what they believe in. You can't communicate efficiently without knowing that.
I don't know who Ben Shapiro is so I'm just using him as an example and maybe he is noteworthy, but if the system tells everyone to watch Ben Shapiro videos of course everyone is gonna know who he is. Maybe he wouldn't be 'required knowledge' if youtube didn't force it and reinforce it on everyone.
The current system doesn't tell you what people are interested in, it tells you what the system made the people pay interest to.
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#16If they could simply make the "Not interested" feature work that would be great.
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#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
On the other hand, I wouldn't know who Ben Shapiro is without having watched Rogan videos. It's an important info to have, because it tells you what people are interested in, and what they believe in. You can't communicate efficiently without knowing that.
I don't know who Ben Shapiro is so I'm just using him as an example and maybe he is noteworthy, but if the system tells everyone to watch Ben Shapiro videos of course everyone is gonna know who he is. Maybe he wouldn't be 'required knowledge' if youtube didn't force it and reinforce it on everyone. The current system doesn't tell you what people are interested in, it tells you what the system made the people pay inte…
Well, I assume it recommends what other people that watched similar videos watched as well.
I doubt Ben Shapiro is 'required knowledge', nor that he became popular only through youtube. Those people usually have an IRL crowd. They have IRL impacts.
But I see your point.
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#18Long overdue. Maybe in a few months I can watch a Joe Rogan podcast video without tainting my YouTube recommendations for the next year with Ben Shapiro-style clickbait.
However, who determines what is a conspaircy? The government might be deciding that Iraq has WMDs and any evidence to the contrary is a conspiracy. While some measures are needed to be taken, who decides what is? No one is truly impartial. The censorship (while required due to how much crap is in YouTube) might devolve to 1984 without comple transparency, which we all know google isn’t providing.
Who determines when daytime is? is 7AM daytime? is 7AM in Alaska in the middle of winter daytime?
There is a discussion to be had about some topics at the edge...but 2PM everyone agrees is part of daytime; the flat earth 'conspiracy' should never be recommended to anybody.
And sadly, in the current climate, this also has to be said: This does not mean Google is picking sides. If you on your own reflections decide that for some strange reason the earth is flat, that is your right, and no one is infringing on it by not giving you a platform.
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#19But who gets to decide what counts as a "conspiracy"? It's very easy to suppress true and inconvenient information by attaching some vague and undesirable label to it, e.g., the Soviets abusing mental health diagnoses to silence dissidents.
I'd rather have conspiracy videos in my feed than give the YouTube content moderation people the power to decide what counts as conspiracy.
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#20It does seem to be getting better, for a long while I had to make sure to clear my history of any conservative leaning videos or I'd end up down a rabbit hole. Too many and all of a sudden its bloody flat earth videos and other insane conspiracies. Made it very difficult to try and watch a balanced set of videos.
Yep. I like to watch some videos of varying view points and political leanings to avoid falling into an echo chamber.
But more than. One or two conservative videos, especially about European current events, and you are sucked in to the Nazi Propaganda hole.
Another inescapable pit of content is electronic music production.
I was doing a bit of research on the teenage engineering pocket operators as a possible gift for my younger brother. Now Im almost exclusively recommend music production videos.