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Re: Canada's New Food Guide

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I prefer the visualization on the Harvard Healthy Eating Plate website: it conveys more information in a smaller space than the plate graphic you first see on Canada's Food Guide. That said, the Canada Food Guide page certainly has fat covered. It doesn't mention it straight from the landing page, but if you explore the guide, you find it pretty quick. The first link in the sidebar of the Canada Food Guide, "Food Cho…

True, and I don't hate this guide from my government, but the sample recipes are eye-rolling. https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/canada-food-... Like, guys. Why are we adding brown sugar and why are we stressing skim milk? What are we adding dried cranberries, which lack fibre? I constantly feel like I need to write a website on how to be healthy. I'm a fit software dev with 11% body fat. I've held it fo…

What's wrong with canned chickpeas?

Re: Canada's New Food Guide

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"unsaturated fats (such as olive oil) are not suitable for (high-temperature) cooking." That's not true, another human myth. here is the paper, TLDR: olive oil retains most of its nutritional benefits even when heated in high temperatures. https://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jf020506w go for healthy fat! :)

You're missing the point – oils are (un)suitable for cooking primarily based on the risk of oxidation via heat. That study is only about the polyphenol content of olive oil (which, according to the study, do not get degraded as much as we might have thought), but it says nothing about the oxidation of poly-unsaturated fats. Unsaturated fats are at a much higher risk of oxidation, which is why cooking with canola oil…

Avocado oil has a very high smoke point. Its not cheap, but not too much more than legit EVOO.

Re: Canada's New Food Guide

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post #111

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True, and I don't hate this guide from my government, but the sample recipes are eye-rolling. https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/canada-food-... Like, guys. Why are we adding brown sugar and why are we stressing skim milk? What are we adding dried cranberries, which lack fibre? I constantly feel like I need to write a website on how to be healthy. I'm a fit software dev with 11% body fat. I've held it fo…

What's wrong with canned chickpeas?

https://www.livestrong.com/article/546054-disadvantages-of-c...

This was the first I'd heard of it too, but I looked it up and saw this page (as well as various similar pages). It looks like canned has way less nutritional value when compared to cooked from dry.

There's also the higher sodium content.

Re: Canada's New Food Guide

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For comparison: Harvard Healthy Eating Plate https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/healthy-eating-... At least among the Harvard faculty, there appears to be a consensus that healthy fats are important, which the Canadian guide doesn't seem to stress that much. https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you... === Comments on the Harvard Healthy Eating Plate ( https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/front…

Olive oil is not a healthy fat (as much as I'd love it to be) -- it's got a substantial amount of saturated fat, and the interviewer is correct -- it's very easy to get a lot of empty calories with oil. Aside from that, weight is not the only issue. A high fat diet (even a vegan one) is not good for your cardiovascular system. There's a widely quoted study by high-fat diet proponents comparing two groups eating a hig…

"On the other hand, a true low fat diet, with fewer than 10% of calories from fat, has been shown to actually reverse the progression of heart disease"

I know almost nothing about health studies, but I read the abstract you link to and there's no mention of randomized control group or other mechanism to prevent bias.

Tried a quick search and came up with this Wikipedia article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturated_fat_and_cardiovascul...

Re: Canada's New Food Guide

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For comparison: Harvard Healthy Eating Plate https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/healthy-eating-... At least among the Harvard faculty, there appears to be a consensus that healthy fats are important, which the Canadian guide doesn't seem to stress that much. https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you... === Comments on the Harvard Healthy Eating Plate ( https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/front…

> What we really need is sound data, and the studies that have been done show that people actually end up controlling their weight at least as well, and usually better, on moderate-fat diets compared to low-fat, high-carbohydrate diets.

In my experience, and what I've read, relatively higher fat food satiates better. If you're relatively less hungry, you have a better chance to resist overeating and boredom eating.

Re: Canada's New Food Guide

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I didn't say to avoid fat, I said to avoid extracted fats (oils). Whole food fats e.g. the olive instead of olive oil is fine

Olives make a good snack, olive oil doesn't. Olive oil is great for frying things in, whole (or even sliced) olives aren't. It's silly to pretend that you can pick one and live your life without the other. Or that there is never a need for some sort of cooking fat.

Because you're assuming maintaining the same eating habits. I have literally consumed no overt oils for a year now, have had no need for a cooking fat, and have had no lack in creative dishes. I eat flavorful curries, soups, etc. If I want something similar to sauted, I can use water or broth. If I want something crispy, I can bake. You just lack creative imagination to see that it's possible.

Re: Canada's New Food Guide

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I don't have the book at hand right now to cite exact pages, but Dr. Greger's "How Not to Die" has a much better explanation and cited sources on why one would want to avoid oils in favor of the whole plant source. Looking at longevity, it's relative and multifaceted - maybe oils aren't as damaging as not exercising, but it doesn't make them healthy.

I'd trust the people consuming them (and living to 100+) over some Dr that looks way older than his 46 years... (Yeah, it's multifaceted, but it's not true that olive oil is "devoid of nutricional value" as someone wrote above (it has antioxidants, omega-6, oleic acid, and so on).

You know that's fallacious logic, right? Olive oil is devoid of value in comparison to olives. It has no fiber and stripped of minerals and vitamins.

Re: Canada's New Food Guide

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I don't have the book at hand right now to cite exact pages, but Dr. Greger's "How Not to Die" has a much better explanation and cited sources on why one would want to avoid oils in favor of the whole plant source. Looking at longevity, it's relative and multifaceted - maybe oils aren't as damaging as not exercising, but it doesn't make them healthy.

Funny thing is that Dr. Valter Longo suggests the exact opposite - a take-in of 80 grams of olive oil a day: https://valterlongo.com/cardiovascular-diseases/ I read both books - "How not to die" (Greger) and "the Longevity Diet" - and I thought about their opinions as well. ATM I tend to stick to good oils from plants as well as nuts. Greger is not very convincing - mostly because he suggests nuts as well, and a good…

How does recommending nuts contradict his message? It doesn't.
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