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Hard Part of Computer Science? Getting into Class

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Re: Hard Part of Computer Science? Getting into Class

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Why do US colleges over-admit like this? In the UK you apply to do a computer science course, and they have 50 places or whatever for that course, and so they admit 50 people. You can't get into the college and then be told that actually it's full. If they do accidentally over-admit it's their problem to solve, not yours.

Re: Hard Part of Computer Science? Getting into Class

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Why do US colleges over-admit like this? In the UK you apply to do a computer science course, and they have 50 places or whatever for that course, and so they admit 50 people. You can't get into the college and then be told that actually it's full. If they do accidentally over-admit it's their problem to solve, not yours.

And you would have had to have done related courses A levels for the last two years.

You cant just rock up at a university and say id like to study X with out any previous education - this is what the Raspberry Pi was made for originally.

Re: Hard Part of Computer Science? Getting into Class

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post #4

Why do US colleges over-admit like this? In the UK you apply to do a computer science course, and they have 50 places or whatever for that course, and so they admit 50 people. You can't get into the college and then be told that actually it's full. If they do accidentally over-admit it's their problem to solve, not yours.

And you would have had to have done related courses A levels for the last two years. You cant just rock up at a university and say id like to study X with out any previous education - this is what the Raspberry Pi was made for originally.

I think in CS that isn't such a concern.

I mean they will want good grades in maths (and decision maths covers some parts of the CS curriculum) but little else, perhaps Physics - but other than that just good grades.

The thing is that the Computing A Level wasn't widely available and the quality differed between qualifications and exam boards as well - whereas Maths is pretty consistent and is run at every school.

I was fortunate enough to be able to study Further Maths as well, which honestly I would consider a better preparation.

Re: Hard Part of Computer Science? Getting into Class

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Why do US colleges over-admit like this? In the UK you apply to do a computer science course, and they have 50 places or whatever for that course, and so they admit 50 people. You can't get into the college and then be told that actually it's full. If they do accidentally over-admit it's their problem to solve, not yours.

In the UK they oversubscribe most 101 courses, including Psych and Comp Sci. The real watershed is Junior Honours classes which are fixed places. Even 201 is very large.

Re: Hard Part of Computer Science? Getting into Class

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Why do US colleges over-admit like this? In the UK you apply to do a computer science course, and they have 50 places or whatever for that course, and so they admit 50 people. You can't get into the college and then be told that actually it's full. If they do accidentally over-admit it's their problem to solve, not yours.

In the UK they oversubscribe most 101 courses, including Psych and Comp Sci. The real watershed is Junior Honours classes which are fixed places. Even 201 is very large.

Oversubscribe in what sense? In that they're a bit crowded maybe - but it's not the case that they admit you to the university and then won't let you take the course, which is what this article is about.

Did you go to Edinburgh? They have a US system unlike the rest of the UK.

Re: Hard Part of Computer Science? Getting into Class

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Some universities rank those that are majoring in CS higher up in the registration chain, than those taking it for elective, those that are minoring in CS and those that are returning back to school. This means multitudes of students face difficulty in getting into their 100 & 200-level courses. At my school it isn't uncommon to have three sections of 300 students each in the 101 class and 300+ people vying for limited seats in the 200-level class. One of the sophomore level classes expanded their seats to nearly 500 people, but that doesn't solve the problem of getting into the upper division courses that are capped at 150 people. Schools are leaving out a large population of students registering for these courses, which may include first generation students, women and minorities. Even the 100-level courses can nearly be impossible to register for at this point.

Re: Hard Part of Computer Science? Getting into Class

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Why do US colleges over-admit like this? In the UK you apply to do a computer science course, and they have 50 places or whatever for that course, and so they admit 50 people. You can't get into the college and then be told that actually it's full. If they do accidentally over-admit it's their problem to solve, not yours.

the other alternative is to let in 300 and weed them out in first quarter with extra hard coursework and tests
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