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Re: Commission to revoke British .eu domains after Brexit

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Post by alias_neo »

erinnh wrote: post #58
alias_neo wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You may be right, but, the more Brexit news I hear, and the more I read, the more I get the feeling that parts of Europe and the EC are making efforts to make an example of Britain. It may be that the news is following a certain rhetoric, but, it seems clear that the likes of Merkel intend to do this, she's all but said as much. My point here is that when one person is telling you they want to do harm, people will ta…

I see it more as "UK is leaving the EU, so they're losing all their benefits, unless specifically negotiated for".

That's what it should be, but it seems the EU are intentionally being difficult in negotiations.

They want to make life hard for Britain so others that have been considering leaving, think again.

Re: Commission to revoke British .eu domains after Brexit

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Post by matthewmacleod »

scaryclam wrote: post #25
matthewmacleod wrote: post #10

Honestly my bigger concern is what AWS is going to call eu-west-2 now… It should generally have been expected that this would happen in line with the rules. Bit silly, but there we go. Proxy registrants are available.

The eu part of the aws naming means Europe, not the European union.

Okay, lame joke – but I'm both aware of that, and know that even if it weren't the case it wouldn't have to change.

Re: Commission to revoke British .eu domains after Brexit

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Post by benj111 »

midasz wrote: post #63
benj111 wrote: post #30

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At the time of registering, all those eligibility criteria were met. It isn't unreasonable to let current registrations run their course.

Not really. Trade agreements were also made when the UK was in the EU. It doesn't make sense to let them run their course either? Why so lenient? Choosing to leave a club that allows for certain things is ok, but it's inane to be outraged about not keeping those things when you leave.

My passport says European Union on it, does that suddenly become invalid?

I don't expect to be able to get a passport with EU on it for ever, I expect to able to carry on using the one I already have though.

I'm sure there are many contracts negotiated between British and EU organisations, under EU law. Should those contracts be ripped up? Renegotiated under British law?

That loan that a German company took out from a British bank under EU banking regs. Is that agreement null and void?

Both parties lose even more if this turns into a petty tit for tat.

Re: Commission to revoke British .eu domains after Brexit

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Post by cabalamat »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #68
cabalamat wrote: post #38

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> eu-hostile populist parties are on the rise everywhere in Europe Populist parties are on the rise, and many of them have made anti-EU noises in the past. However, with Brexit, they've got very quiet about leaving the EU. If Brexit does go ahead, I expect it will be sufficiently unpleasant that no-one else will want to leave.

I wouldn't be too sure, some countries might get kicked out - Greece was at risk of that for a while. It's precarious. And there's a big power on the east who would love to see the EU (and the US) destabilize. The UK would fall apart even further after the Brexit; there's likely to be another Scottish referendum and they're likely to leave the UK and rejoin the EU.

> some countries might get kicked out

I don't think this is particularly likely, because the EU doesn't want more countries leaving. Maybe Hungary will, but only if Orban goes completely off the rails.

> there's likely to be another Scottish referendum and they're likely to leave the UK and rejoin the EU.

Wouldn't surprise me at all. What happens in the UK depends on how chaotic the Brexit process gets.

Re: Commission to revoke British .eu domains after Brexit

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Post by robertony »

Marazan wrote: post #74
SeaSeaRider wrote: post #60

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The EU acting in a beligerent way is an admittance of weakness. If they were powerful then they we would let the UK leave with no problems.

Leaving the EU is a problem. It is not in the EU's interest to let the UK have all the benefits of being a member without actually being a member.

Do you think it's in .eu's benefit to do this? I ask because across Europe Union there is a rise in euroscepticism and right-wing parties right now.

If I was a non-UK but EU business, I may even consider moving off .eu sooner rather than later (assuming they actually did this to the UK)... If I was a new business, I'd probably avoid .eu altogether.

What do you think?

Re: Commission to revoke British .eu domains after Brexit

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Post by bkor »

alias_neo wrote: post #81
erinnh wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see it more as "UK is leaving the EU, so they're losing all their benefits, unless specifically negotiated for".

That's what it should be, but it seems the EU are intentionally being difficult in negotiations. They want to make life hard for Britain so others that have been considering leaving, think again.

> That's what it should be, but it seems the EU are intentionally being difficult in negotiations.

The biggest cause is that EU with 500 representing million people has a way better negotiating position. Further, UK really needs to have a deal or they'll be really bad off. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Best_alternative_to_a_negotiat.... UK has almost no leverage, EU does.

In a negotiation you're not entitled to anything. If the cost is 1 MUSD and the seller knows you're so desperate you'll buy it for 150 MUSD then that's what the price will be (or higher).

More in detail, one of the issues is the border between Ireland and Northern Ireland. Meaning the Good Friday Agreement. UK wants to ignore the problem. This while Ireland has veto rights on any deal offered by the EU.

Re: Commission to revoke British .eu domains after Brexit

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Post by LoSboccacc »

cabalamat wrote: post #38
cm2187 wrote: post #29

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Don’t know why you are getting downvoted, eu-hostile populist parties are on the rise everywhere in Europe. If your business depends critically on a domain, I think not relying on a .eu domain is a common sense precaution to take. And it doesn’t matter what the next election polls are. You are still going to depend on your domain in 10 or 15 years.

> eu-hostile populist parties are on the rise everywhere in Europe Populist parties are on the rise, and many of them have made anti-EU noises in the past. However, with Brexit, they've got very quiet about leaving the EU. If Brexit does go ahead, I expect it will be sufficiently unpleasant that no-one else will want to leave.

we lost enough money to Merkels' and the Deutsche Bank's shenanigans* that we'd still come on par leaving.

*like creating the condition for, aggravating and then arbitrating the Greece crisis; like creating a huge slowdown on good consumption driving inflation with quantitative easing; like bargaining with france to turn an eye down their own violations of the stability pact while imposing restriction on anyone else.

the EEC was a great idea. the EU, not so much. it's about time it gets soundly reformed.

some sources

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/2870055/France-and-Germa... https://www.dw.com/en/most-of-greek-bailout-money-went-to-ba... https://www.theguardian.com/business/economics-blog/2016/sep...

Re: Commission to revoke British .eu domains after Brexit

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Post by robertony »

pmden wrote: post #79
afandian wrote: post #53

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The UK's conduct has been appalling. I am deeply ashamed about how my government has conducted itself, and represented the people of the UK. I think the EU's response has been restrained if anything.

I'm not entirely surprised you'd feel that way - the British seem to be uniquely self-flagellating on topics of nation and state. But I'm not sure how you can support the European Union actively punishing the _people and businesses_ of the United Kingdom in response to the 'conduct' of the _government_ of the United Kingdom, when you think said government hasn't provided proper representation for their people. Whethe…

> And it is right to be, particularly in the case human rights.

The European Convention on Human Rights is not an EU institution. The EU has had problems causing conflict with it, such as with the European Arrest Warrant.

> When the stability of the Euro has been at stake, rules always take second-place.

And when the Euro isn't at stake either, after all, they integrated Greece when it failed the checks and balances, pushing it through anyway.

Re: Commission to revoke British .eu domains after Brexit

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Post by isostatic »

pgc wrote: post #19
gioele wrote: post #16

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> For instance, the .it domain is intended for Italian residents This used to be the case decades ago. Now every resident or business of the EU can register a .IT domain: https://www.nic.it/en/faq#t127n81932

The CBS is not European. In fact if you visit http://play.it from Europe, you're in for a surprise.

I get a redirect to https://www.radio.com/audio and " This site isn't currently available in the EU "

Re: Commission to revoke British .eu domains after Brexit

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Post by KevanM »

SeaSeaRider wrote: post #60
alias_neo wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You may be right, but, the more Brexit news I hear, and the more I read, the more I get the feeling that parts of Europe and the EC are making efforts to make an example of Britain. It may be that the news is following a certain rhetoric, but, it seems clear that the likes of Merkel intend to do this, she's all but said as much. My point here is that when one person is telling you they want to do harm, people will ta…

The EU acting in a beligerent way is an admittance of weakness. If they were powerful then they we would let the UK leave with no problems.

They are letting Britain leave, it's happening on the 29th March. What they are being tough on is what happens after that, because Britain is currently a big economy that EU businesses have a lot of fingers in pies in.
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