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Commission to revoke British .eu domains after Brexit

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Re: Commission to revoke British .eu domains after Brexit

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Post by bkor »

SeaSeaRider wrote: post #59
afandian wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The UK's conduct has been appalling. I am deeply ashamed about how my government has conducted itself, and represented the people of the UK. I think the EU's response has been restrained if anything.

Threatening to delete domains for political reasons is “restrained”? I hate brexit probably as much as everyone here, but the institution of the EU has not come out of this any better than the Tory government.

UK was offered a deal. They've rejected a deal which was pretty extensive and handled loads of things. UK chose to leave, UK got a way better deal than they should, UK rejected it, cake is going away, still is on the EU? Really?

Re: Commission to revoke British .eu domains after Brexit

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Post by benmmurphy »

anfilt wrote: post #12

Pretty petty if you ask me. ICANN generally lets things be grandfathered in. However, it is a country code domain so they can administer it how they want.

I assume the internet traditionally lets domains be grandfathered in because it doesn't just 'break' the domain it also 'breaks' all the links to the domains that are no longer eligible. Internet people don't like breaking the hypertext :)

Re: Commission to revoke British .eu domains after Brexit

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Post by jx47 »

SeaSeaRider wrote: post #57

This would be an unhinged move; essentially deleting domains for political reasons. Any business doing due-diligence would be forced to move from their .eu domain.

It states in the first section of the Domain Name Registration Policy that you are eligible to register a .eu domain if you have an organisation or are a natural person that is registered in the EU or a country that has an agreement with the EU. Leaving the EU will cancel the eligibility to register or maintain an .eu domain. So i really do not know why the EU is the bad guy in this scenario.

Re: Commission to revoke British .eu domains after Brexit

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Post by Marazan »

SeaSeaRider wrote: post #60
alias_neo wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You may be right, but, the more Brexit news I hear, and the more I read, the more I get the feeling that parts of Europe and the EC are making efforts to make an example of Britain. It may be that the news is following a certain rhetoric, but, it seems clear that the likes of Merkel intend to do this, she's all but said as much. My point here is that when one person is telling you they want to do harm, people will ta…

The EU acting in a beligerent way is an admittance of weakness. If they were powerful then they we would let the UK leave with no problems.

Leaving the EU is a problem.

It is not in the EU's interest to let the UK have all the benefits of being a member without actually being a member.

Re: Commission to revoke British .eu domains after Brexit

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Post by TadaScientist »

SeaSeaRider wrote: post #59
afandian wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The UK's conduct has been appalling. I am deeply ashamed about how my government has conducted itself, and represented the people of the UK. I think the EU's response has been restrained if anything.

Threatening to delete domains for political reasons is “restrained”? I hate brexit probably as much as everyone here, but the institution of the EU has not come out of this any better than the Tory government.

They are not threatening - it's certainly within their rights and within the rule of the law.

I don't see why the EU should show goodwill when every day the British politician tell them to go f%^& themselves. At some point they expect goodwill before extending it.

Re: Commission to revoke British .eu domains after Brexit

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Post by Marazan »

growlist wrote: post #54
alias_neo wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You may be right, but, the more Brexit news I hear, and the more I read, the more I get the feeling that parts of Europe and the EC are making efforts to make an example of Britain. It may be that the news is following a certain rhetoric, but, it seems clear that the likes of Merkel intend to do this, she's all but said as much. My point here is that when one person is telling you they want to do harm, people will ta…

I wonder whether any other trading union in the world would act in such a tyrannical way should one of its members decide it's had enough. Hell hath no fury like the EU spurned. Reminds me of the Soviet union: 'our socialist utopia is so fantastic that we have to shoot anyone that tries to leave'.

Imagine a country leaving a trading block and then acting suprised it doesn't get any of the benefits of being a member of the block.

Re: Commission to revoke British .eu domains after Brexit

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Post by SeaSeaRider »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #64
SeaSeaRider wrote: post #57

This would be an unhinged move; essentially deleting domains for political reasons. Any business doing due-diligence would be forced to move from their .eu domain.

Political reasons? Yes, the UK is leaving the EU, they do not WANT to be part of the EU anymore. Letting go of a domain extension is only a small price to pay in comparison. They can't have their cake and eat it too - leave means leave. That's 250.000 domains whose owners and (if applicable) personnel had the option to vote remain. Of course, they can still move to remain in the EU after all.

The terrifying thing is that people with your mindset are actually part of the bureaucracy of the EU. No credible company will keep a .EU domain if they go ahead with this unhinged plan to delete 250000 domains.

Re: Commission to revoke British .eu domains after Brexit

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Post by alias_neo »

bkor wrote: post #69
alias_neo wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You may be right, but, the more Brexit news I hear, and the more I read, the more I get the feeling that parts of Europe and the EC are making efforts to make an example of Britain. It may be that the news is following a certain rhetoric, but, it seems clear that the likes of Merkel intend to do this, she's all but said as much. My point here is that when one person is telling you they want to do harm, people will ta…

> You may be right, but, the more Brexit news I hear, and the more I read, the more I get the feeling that parts of Europe and the EC are making efforts to make an example of Britain. If a member leaves the EU they're not getting the benefits anymore of being part of the EU. It's mainly the UK who has no idea at all at what they want. Various statements made by the EU 2 years ago still hold true. If you read UK press…

The issue, I think, irrespective of the press, is that May is not fit to negotiate a suitable deal, the people want a people's vote, because there is currently no suitable replacement.

Re: Commission to revoke British .eu domains after Brexit

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Post by pmden »

afandian wrote: post #53
anfilt wrote: post #12

Pretty petty if you ask me. ICANN generally lets things be grandfathered in. However, it is a country code domain so they can administer it how they want.

The UK's conduct has been appalling. I am deeply ashamed about how my government has conducted itself, and represented the people of the UK. I think the EU's response has been restrained if anything.

I'm not entirely surprised you'd feel that way - the British seem to be uniquely self-flagellating on topics of nation and state. But I'm not sure how you can support the European Union actively punishing the _people and businesses_ of the United Kingdom in response to the 'conduct' of the _government_ of the United Kingdom, when you think said government hasn't provided proper representation for their people. Whether the United Kingdom deserves it or not has little bearing on this technically unusual and rather petty decision.

I'm also thoroughly opposed to the idea that the European Union is always strict with its rules. It can be. And it is right to be, particularly in the case human rights. But it's impossible to pretend that there hasn't been gross flouting of rules over the last decade. When the stability of the Euro has been at stake, rules always take second-place.

Re: Commission to revoke British .eu domains after Brexit

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Post by robertony »

benj111 wrote: post #55
alias_neo wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You may be right, but, the more Brexit news I hear, and the more I read, the more I get the feeling that parts of Europe and the EC are making efforts to make an example of Britain. It may be that the news is following a certain rhetoric, but, it seems clear that the likes of Merkel intend to do this, she's all but said as much. My point here is that when one person is telling you they want to do harm, people will ta…

Britain is leaving, The EU is now acting in its best interests. I'm not sure you can read any more into it than that. Yes this does seem unreasonable, I can't think of any other examples where they're being unreasonable though?

I suspect that this will be rather damaging for the .eu TLD. If I were in a country that has a rise in Euroscepticism, right-wing parties while in the EU (which is pretty much most of them now); I wouldn't feel confident in getting a .eu domain and building a business on that anymore.
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