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Palantir CEO rips Silicon Valley, accuses it of selling out America
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#22> "The reason why people put up with crazy looking people that are doing their thing in a different way is because we have historically delivered either jobs or national security," Karp told CNBC on Wednesday. "People understood the value of what we're doing." Has Silicon Valley ever had a particular history of delivering "national security". I would say more than jobs or national security SV has delivered free or ch…
SV has always worked with the DoD, and the internet was a DARPA project. More tangibly, Lockheed Martin was founded in Palo Alto, and Raytheon is still in the area.
But I'm guessing your question is asking whether or not these products have resulted in "national security". Does having more fighter jets or satellites make us safer? Traditionally, yes. However in the 21st century, I think we need to focus more on robust systems of communication while building bridges with the rest of the world.
Re: Palantir CEO rips Silicon Valley, accuses it of selling out America
#23This reads like an Onion headline
Re: Palantir CEO rips Silicon Valley, accuses it of selling out America
#24If you have sold your soul to uncouth government agents violating law and then lying about it, you pretty much will end up being very unhappy about the rest of the world.
Now, the central idea of united states was to have small micro communities that will mind their own business, will chose their own values and give zero fks about "greater society". "Greater Society" is the euphemism for handful few who pretend to be the representatives of the "greater society" or "greater good". In fact when a person talks about "greater good" always be aware he is trying to sell you something that is clearly not good for you.
Google or any other company should not be compelled to work on anything that it is not willing to work. That is an important value USA has learned the hard way and we better keep it. After all Karp and his company are there to help DoD or Pentagon or FBI.
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#25While it's not going to a be a popular oppinion, I do have first hand knowledge and experience and agree. As somebody who lived in SF for over five years, the last couple of years especially there is a palatable distain for Americanism and patriotism at bay area companies. I'd even go as far as some people are flat out anti-American. There is an anti-authority ideology that permeates everything and a persistent skept…
Do you not think if an intelligent person looked at things objectively they would come to hate our frogein policy, 1% controlled government, and wealth inequality which is result of capitalism that has gone haywire?
Budget of NASA is Tiny percentage of what we spend on WAR every year. Destroy elected governments, setup puppets, veto UN's majority decisions... Use automonus drones, use vaccination camps to recruit spies, kill doctors in war zone... It keeps going. List of atrocities grow every year sadly.
How do you feel when you learn there is a billionaire who has not paid any tax in years or corporations owe billions in taxes.
What about Verizon hijacking fcc?
Re: Palantir CEO rips Silicon Valley, accuses it of selling out America
#26> "The reason why people put up with crazy looking people that are doing their thing in a different way is because we have historically delivered either jobs or national security," Karp told CNBC on Wednesday. "People understood the value of what we're doing." Has Silicon Valley ever had a particular history of delivering "national security". I would say more than jobs or national security SV has delivered free or ch…
SV has always worked with the DoD, and the internet was a DARPA project. More tangibly, Lockheed Martin was founded in Palo Alto, and Raytheon is still in the area. But I'm guessing your question is asking whether or not these products have resulted in "national security". Does having more fighter jets or satellites make us safer? Traditionally, yes. However in the 21st century, I think we need to focus more on robus…
Certainly he isn't referring to government contractors like Lockheed when referring to the tech companies of SV who have sold out America.
Re: Palantir CEO rips Silicon Valley, accuses it of selling out America
#27While it's not going to a be a popular oppinion, I do have first hand knowledge and experience and agree. As somebody who lived in SF for over five years, the last couple of years especially there is a palatable distain for Americanism and patriotism at bay area companies. I'd even go as far as some people are flat out anti-American. There is an anti-authority ideology that permeates everything and a persistent skept…
Yep. That's how it's been as long as I've been involved in the industry, and it's a good thing.
Re: Palantir CEO rips Silicon Valley, accuses it of selling out America
#28While it's not going to a be a popular oppinion, I do have first hand knowledge and experience and agree. As somebody who lived in SF for over five years, the last couple of years especially there is a palatable distain for Americanism and patriotism at bay area companies. I'd even go as far as some people are flat out anti-American. There is an anti-authority ideology that permeates everything and a persistent skept…
I feel nationalism and patriotism are dangerous concepts that need to be challenged. We should be looking to form an inclusive global community that can progress together instead of boxing ourselves into arbitrarily drawn man made lines which we are thrown into by luck of birth. Not that I don't believe in nation status. But I never understood why should I like a person who falls on one side of that line more than a person on another side of that arbitrary line.
As for being anti-American, I guess it depends on which America. Is it the one that professes the values of democracy and progress, leads in sciences and exploration, welcomes everyone with open arms ? I love that America. Or is it the America of wealth inequality, foreign wars, and global geopolitics. Not a fan of that America.
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#29Google's initial investors included the CIA (InQTel). The internet itself was a defense (DARPA) project. The Bell Labs work on the transistor emerged from war-time efforts to produce extremely pure germanium "crystal" mixer diodes, used in radar units. I can go on and on about the inventions spawned by defense funding. Silicon valley itself owes its existence to Northrop Grumman and their ilk, who were early tech emp…
There are certainly many people who work for defense contractors and they are necessary. But, other people don't want to do that. If they join a company that's not a defense contractor, and it becomes a defense contractor, it feels like a bait-and-switch. That's not what they signed up for. And it does seem like, in a large industry with many different kinds of jobs that need to be done, it's clearly not necessary fo…
There's no bait and switch anywhere. Employment is primarily at-will, and anyone can walk out anytime.
Also, companies have certain identities in certain time-windows. Apple was a computer company in the late 90s, by late 2000s it had already gone through 2 identities: a music player company, to primarily a phone company.
Employers cannot guarantee what work and markets they will and won't chase. Being a cloud infrastructure and AI company, it's predictable for Google to decide to go after one of the largest spenders in the space, defense.
Re: Palantir CEO rips Silicon Valley, accuses it of selling out America
#30While it's not going to a be a popular oppinion, I do have first hand knowledge and experience and agree. As somebody who lived in SF for over five years, the last couple of years especially there is a palatable distain for Americanism and patriotism at bay area companies. I'd even go as far as some people are flat out anti-American. There is an anti-authority ideology that permeates everything and a persistent skept…
Today's valley thinks in kosher/halal and Haram. Patriotism is Haram/non-kosher. "Merit" is a euphemism for white privilege, and equality of outcome, not equality of opportunity,
is paramount.
With such a strictly enforced & codified monoculture, you'll never convince the valley that patriotism can be a trait among normal, peace loving, humans. They will go out of their way to characterize patriotism, especially American, as toxic. And in different ways, they'll regurgitate the exact same moot points to put you in a camp of immortality, and themselves in a higher moral ground. A contrarian existence is an impossibility in their algorithm