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Three Men Charged in ‘Swatting’ Schemes

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Re: Three Men Charged in ‘Swatting’ Schemes

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Several things need to be done. These idiots should be charged with something along the lines of conspiracy to commit murder. The phone system needs to be updated to prevent apoofing of numbers. I know it jas its reasons for corporate exchanges and whatnot, but safety outweighs that. A Telco should be able to uniquely identify precisely who made a call. Along the way: no blocked numbers on caller ID. I dont answer a…

or we can just train our police force not to murder unarmed civilians

Re: Three Men Charged in ‘Swatting’ Schemes

#22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a little surprised you didn't mention anything about police being held accountable when responding with unreasonable force to anonymous tips. If we are going to start talking about fixing this issue, I'm not sure getting rid of blocked numbers is going to materially impact these outcomes. Likewise, what is your recommendation on eliminating the threat of burner phones?

Most police calls that are not from a victim amount to an anonymous call. They cannot be ignored. I hate to say, but it's a slippery slope. Right now, you can't distinguish between a legit line and a spoof, or a burner. But a burner still has a traceable number. Perhaps burners could be placed in a "low trust" zone when dialling emergency services. Such a classification could give 1st responders the caution they need…

> I hate to say, but it's a slippery slope

The underlying problem is that police should not jump to lethal force and have proper training to contain dangerous situation, not kill people who are crawling on the floor under their orders.

The problem is not distinguishing between a legit line and a spoof, it is having a police force that is not trigger happy who cowardly justify every killing with "I was scared for my life".

Police who are so easy to be "scared for life" should not be in the force, in the same way someone with pyrophobia should not be a firefighter.

Re: Three Men Charged in ‘Swatting’ Schemes

#23
I've confronted these types of people many times in the past. They're usually quite childish. If anything, they probably thought it was humorous. Things like this happen all the time with content creators and it won't stop anytime soon. Many people contact authorities beforehand to whitelist their address but I'm unsure if it's effective.

I've also heard about pets that get murdered for having vicious tendencies in the victims household. How sad...

Re: Three Men Charged in ‘Swatting’ Schemes

#24

Several things need to be done. These idiots should be charged with something along the lines of conspiracy to commit murder. The phone system needs to be updated to prevent apoofing of numbers. I know it jas its reasons for corporate exchanges and whatnot, but safety outweighs that. A Telco should be able to uniquely identify precisely who made a call. Along the way: no blocked numbers on caller ID. I dont answer a…

> The phone system needs to be updated to prevent apoofing of numbers. I know it jas its reasons for corporate exchanges and whatnot, but safety outweighs that. A Telco should be able to uniquely identify precisely who made a call.

I would never (unless I have a serious reason to believe this can save a life) report a crime non-anonymously as I neither want to become a suspect (for many kinds of crimes this is possible) nor to be forced to participate in a court or anything like that as a witness.

Re: Three Men Charged in ‘Swatting’ Schemes

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> should be charged with something along the lines of conspiracy to commit murder How do you prove the intent was to murder rather than to harass? You think you’re being clever by charging with something more serious, then the charge fails because really you just wanted what they really did to have a steeper punishment. > I dont answer a blocked number, anyway They don’t call you - it doesn’t matter what you’d do - t…

Because then they wouldn't be SWATting people then, they would, idk, order 10 pizzas to the place. Does this really need to be asked?

... yes? We have specific legal terms for death caused by actions where prosecutors don't think they can prove murder, and there's a reason for that

Re: Three Men Charged in ‘Swatting’ Schemes

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most police calls that are not from a victim amount to an anonymous call. They cannot be ignored. I hate to say, but it's a slippery slope. Right now, you can't distinguish between a legit line and a spoof, or a burner. But a burner still has a traceable number. Perhaps burners could be placed in a "low trust" zone when dialling emergency services. Such a classification could give 1st responders the caution they need…

> I hate to say, but it's a slippery slope The underlying problem is that police should not jump to lethal force and have proper training to contain dangerous situation, not kill people who are crawling on the floor under their orders. The problem is not distinguishing between a legit line and a spoof, it is having a police force that is not trigger happy who cowardly justify every killing with "I was scared for my l…

Again, that's a different issue and separate from calling the Swat teams. The cops are told that murder has happened and a person that had "killed" his family member has zero to lose, so yeah, cops are afraid. The person that sees 20 armed cops or has a grenade thrown through his window will freak out and not act rationally. Recipe for disaster, all because someone made that call.

19 years old going to jail for 20-25 years...

Re: Three Men Charged in ‘Swatting’ Schemes

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Twitter names @internetlord @defeat @tragic and @spared

Those seem like some pretty high value names. Although internetlord and tragic don't look like what I'd expect a swatter's account to look like. They don't appear very popular or active so saying they're "known by" those names seems a little strange.

Also strange how much more valuable those look compared to the mastermind's twitter names swautistic and goredtutor36 .

Re: Three Men Charged in ‘Swatting’ Schemes

#29

Several things need to be done. These idiots should be charged with something along the lines of conspiracy to commit murder. The phone system needs to be updated to prevent apoofing of numbers. I know it jas its reasons for corporate exchanges and whatnot, but safety outweighs that. A Telco should be able to uniquely identify precisely who made a call. Along the way: no blocked numbers on caller ID. I dont answer a…

> The phone system needs to be updated to prevent apoofing of numbers. I know it jas its reasons for corporate exchanges and whatnot, but safety outweighs that. A Telco should be able to uniquely identify precisely who made a call. I would never (unless I have a serious reason to believe this can save a life) report a crime non-anonymously as I neither want to become a suspect (for many kinds of crimes this is possib…

> nor to be forced to participate in a court or anything like that as a witness.

indeed. lay witnesses are treated rather poorly.

Re: Three Men Charged in ‘Swatting’ Schemes

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What happens when an unverified threat isn't considered quick enough, and the hostages are killed while the police are standing around outside taking a wait and see approach?

The fact that this only happens in America indicates that their approach is the wrong one. They could ask any other developed nation for advice.

Hostages are only taken by crazy people in America? I doubt that.
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