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As a meat eater, I would absolutely replace some of the meats I buy with meatless products if I liked them.
As a consumer, I would absolutely replace some of the consumables I buy with perfect substitutes if I liked them. This is exactly what economists assume.
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I'd also disagree with - People who want meatless products aren't buying meat so they're an expansion opportunity. I think that's a fair assessment. I think that the desire to eat meat-like products is much lower than a lot of people assume in vegetarian/vegan people. Products like Seitan and other "meat texture" items have always done poorly when compared to vegetarian/vegan offerings that simply omit any meat-like…
I agree about the "desire" to eat meat-like products with the vegetarian/vegan set. None of my vegetarian/vegan are into the fake meats at all. Most don't even try it once. I think the market for this type of fake meat are meat eaters with an environmental awareness.
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How does the meatless meat production costs compare to meat products? Their retail price is higher, so they may be increasing their profits in the process, not cannibalizing it.
I'm sure this is partially due to (lack of) scale and equal parts lack of competition.
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I'd also disagree with - People who want meatless products aren't buying meat so they're an expansion opportunity. I think that's a fair assessment. I think that the desire to eat meat-like products is much lower than a lot of people assume in vegetarian/vegan people. Products like Seitan and other "meat texture" items have always done poorly when compared to vegetarian/vegan offerings that simply omit any meat-like…
> Products like Seitan and other "meat texture" items have always done poorly when compared to vegetarian/vegan offerings that simply omit any meat-like ingredients Hm... do non -vegetarians/vegans actually prefer these newer "meat texture" items over the classic veggie ones?
I think I may have tried a meat imitation product once but didn't like it very much. I prefer sticky to the spicy, vegetarian food that I am used to :-)
I suspect the timing deliberately lines up with the launch of the new Canadian food guide yesterday. https://food-guide.canada.ca/en/
It seems to me that insect meat is the way to go taste, nutrition, and cost wise. But people are adverse to eating bugs. To me this seems to be a branding problem. One of the plant based burger producers should advertise that their food is supplemented with natural proteins and lipids, then stuff their plant burgers with ground up crickets or meal worms or whatever. I don’t think people would have as much a problem e…
Wouldn't people eventually look at the ingredients though? They will just find out about crickets there...
It’s a veggie burger with bug proteins. Not just bugs.
It seems to me that insect meat is the way to go taste, nutrition, and cost wise. But people are adverse to eating bugs. To me this seems to be a branding problem. One of the plant based burger producers should advertise that their food is supplemented with natural proteins and lipids, then stuff their plant burgers with ground up crickets or meal worms or whatever. I don’t think people would have as much a problem e…
Insects have to eat something too. And some insects are carnivorous. So you would be inserting multiple layers into the food chain with all the associated efficiency losses and increases in carbon footprint. Going straight to the source seems reasonable if it can be made to work.
If people like meat, bugs are a pretty good way to solve for that.
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How does the meatless meat production costs compare to meat products? Their retail price is higher, so they may be increasing their profits in the process, not cannibalizing it.
So the local diner sells an impossible burger on the menu along with a regular burger. The burger with fries is $5.99. The comparable impossible burger with fries is $11.99 If fries cost $2, then the regular burger costs $4 and the impossible burger costs $10 or 2.5 times the cost of the regular burger. That suggest there's a lot of room for profit for both the company and the retailer. But the key thing is that ther…
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> We have to reduce meat consumption as we understand the impact on climate change, and as ever more of the world gains a developed life. Meat consumption needs to trend like smoking. For the US I disagree. According to the math, if the entire country went 100% vegan it would cut emissions by 2-3%. If we're only going to look at individual habits there are other areas that are more impactful. Flying in airplane less…
> According to the math, if the entire country went 100% vegan it would cut emissions by 2-3%. I would love to see something, anything that validates that claim as it is wildly at odds with everything I have seen. > Meat consumption has also declined in the US by ~25% since the 1960s. You made a typo, you meant increased. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3045642/
This article talks about and links to a paper discussing: https://qz.com/1131428/if-the-entire-us-went-vegan-itd-be-a-...
Their estimate was a 2.6% reduction.
> You made a typo, you meant increased.
I was thinking of beef consumption. Of course, consumption of poultry has increased. Which is supposedly the "healthy" option.
https://www.wri.org/blog/2018/01/2018-will-see-high-meat-con...
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As a consumer, I would absolutely replace some of the consumables I buy with perfect substitutes if I liked them. This is exactly what economists assume.
"If I liked them" is a much lower bar than "perfect substitute".