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Mendeley encrypts users' database after Zotero provides an importer

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Re: Mendeley encrypts users' database after Zotero provides an importer

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I dropped Mendely a year ago. Because it kept crashing and they could not resolve the issue. The bug has not closed since then. I was unable to extract my highlights. I tried mucking about in their SQLite dB.

Tried zoetro but prefer using highlights app ad It saves the highlights on the PDF. And you can then export to markdown etc.

Not sure how zoetro saves highlights but I am never going to take that risk again. A years worth of research down the drain.

Re: Mendeley encrypts users' database after Zotero provides an importer

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post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good idea re: giving context as to what these programs are. For most of us who do research, these programs are essentially interchangeable "reference managers." Here's what I mean: I read a scientific paper or look up a citation. I add that with a click or two to my reference manager. It also stores the PDF for me. In the future, I can easily re-read the PDF. I can annotate it and the annotations will be stored. Crit…

The only difference is that Mendeley has a built-in PDF viewer with annotation. Of course since you can no longer share these annotations, nor export the pdf, that's all pointless. Mendeley opens PDFs externally, but many PDF readers can create and save annotations.

On your second paragraph you meant Zotero. I just added this comment to make yours more clear.

Re: Mendeley encrypts users' database after Zotero provides an importer

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post #6

Zotero has improved a lot, while Mendeley has repeatedly regressed. Mendeley used to be quite a good program, but recently you can not export annotated PDFs meaningfully. For example, sending a folder of annotated PDFs to a co-author during a literature review is impossible. This is obviously the case since Elsevier does not want you to trade research papers, whether you have lawfull access or not. The updates that t…

> ELSEVIER IS SIMPLY ANTI SCIENCE.

+1. I worked in publicly-funded research labs for 15 years and there is no single organization I despise as much as Elsevier - only Springer-NPG comes close. If the company went bankrupt tomorrow it would be a great day for science.

Re: Mendeley encrypts users' database after Zotero provides an importer

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post #55

GDPR?

Ironically, GDPR is what Mendeley used to justify the encryption [0]. Obviously, complete rubbish. It would be interesting to see what happens if people start asking for their data in a portable format though.

[0] https://twitter.com/mendeley_com/status/1006915998841221120

Re: Mendeley encrypts users' database after Zotero provides an importer

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post #47
post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Very informative post, thanks. I’d love to hear your impression of Citationsy (closer to CiteThisForMe or RefMe in functionality than Zotero it EndNote).

Never heard of it before! Looking at their website, it does seem like Citationsy is somewhere in-between a full-blown reference management application and one-off bibliography creation applications. What Citationsy does not appear to do is manage inline citations within a Word or Google Docs document. Zotero will let you hit a keyboard shortcut, search for a reference, and insert a citation right in a paragraph (e.g.…

Have you looked at Citavi? It's the software many German universities offer. While it's PDF annotation system/knowledge database is awesome (elements of different types linked to locations in the PDF, categorizable and taggable) and the Add-Ins are very fast and bug-free (compared to Zotero), collaboration is cumbersome and its focus on "projects" instead of one overarching "library" is annoying

Re: Mendeley encrypts users' database after Zotero provides an importer

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post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which one gives the best seamless mobile integration experience? Papers for iOS wasn't bad (if you let it finish syncing with Dropbox ) but curious about this!

Probably Papers is your best bet at this point. Zotero will let you send PDFs to/from a tablet with the ZotFile ( http://zotfile.com ) plugin. This works well if your workflow is (1) find PDF on your computer; (2) read on tablet. But if you want to do anything else -- even choosing a PDF to read from your tablet without touching your computer -- then Zotero won't work. With that said, I know Zotero is working on mobi…

Do you have any experience with bookends?

Re: Mendeley encrypts users' database after Zotero provides an importer

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post #6

Zotero has improved a lot, while Mendeley has repeatedly regressed. Mendeley used to be quite a good program, but recently you can not export annotated PDFs meaningfully. For example, sending a folder of annotated PDFs to a co-author during a literature review is impossible. This is obviously the case since Elsevier does not want you to trade research papers, whether you have lawfull access or not. The updates that t…

Zotero has improved a lot, though sadly it still has a way to go on the user experience of Mendeley. My main gripes are - The way that it still doesn't play nice with cloud services (syncing the directory and its just a matter of time until you get database corruption. It takes a lot of wonky setting up to get it to kind of work, which just shouldn't be the case - The lack of developers and thus slow pace of improvem…

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Re: Mendeley encrypts users' database after Zotero provides an importer

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post #14

For those wondering, here's what I gathered as some context. Zotero = Your personal research assistant. Zotero is a free, easy-to-use tool to help you collect, organize, cite, and share research. https://www.zotero.org/ Mendeley = Reference Management Software, produced by Elsevier who also happens to be the publisher of many peer-reviewed journals. Elsevier come under fire for it's high costs and gateway actions to…

Mendeley was originally a startup. Precisely why people even started embracing it (though I didn't, something always felt fishy for me) and then they got acquired by Elseiver. I have nothing but good things to say about about Papers for Mac though.

I've never used Papers, but have had colleagues that swear by it. However, it is not open source, so you still run the risk of the developers selling out just like Mendeley.

Re: Mendeley encrypts users' database after Zotero provides an importer

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post #6

Zotero has improved a lot, while Mendeley has repeatedly regressed. Mendeley used to be quite a good program, but recently you can not export annotated PDFs meaningfully. For example, sending a folder of annotated PDFs to a co-author during a literature review is impossible. This is obviously the case since Elsevier does not want you to trade research papers, whether you have lawfull access or not. The updates that t…

How easy is it to leave Zotero? (Either to move to a different paper manager, e.g., Mendeley, or to leave the paper manager ecosystem entirely.) Can Zotero respect my filesystem organization (à la Lightroom)? I have thousands of papers organized, and don't want to move them all in (too much work, what if I don't like it?), but I also don't want to have two copies of some subset of the papers, which might not be in sy…

Yeah it can do that, with the use of some plugins.
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