Oracle and Apple Announce OpenJDK Project for Mac OS X

I know Oracle is giving its back (not to say finger) to the Apache Foundation, but OpenJDK is a GPL-licensed version of the Java stack. Why is it bad (as in why so many complain) that Apple, Oracle and IBM cluster around OpenJDK? Why is the GPL not good enough?

Re: Oracle and Apple Announce OpenJDK Project for Mac OS X

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Post by pluies » Fri, Nov 12, 2010, 2:28 PM UTC

This is off-topic, but I'm amazed by the descriptions at the end of TFA (I know, I know, it's a press release, but still...)

Oracle is the world’s most complete, open and integrated business software and hardware systems company. (...)

Let's grant integrated and complete, but definitely not "open". Though this is dwarfed by Apple's incredible self-praise:

Apple designs Macs, the best personal computers in the world, along with OS X, iLife, iWork, and professional software. Apple leads the digital music revolution with its iPods and iTunes online store. Apple is reinventing the mobile phone with its revolutionary iPhone and App Store, and has recently introduced its magical iPad which is defining the future of mobile media and computing devices.

Woah there cowboy! A bit of humility maybe?

Re: Oracle and Apple Announce OpenJDK Project for Mac OS X

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Post by cryptoz » Fri, Nov 12, 2010, 2:29 PM UTC

Autre wrote: post #4

Though I'm glad for this desicion, I can't help but wonder: what's in it for oracle? The puny 5% of desktops running mac os?

You don't think that Apple has a bright future building computers? This deal wouldn't have made sense 5 years ago, but Apple is an important force right now and is poised to be a huge part of the future.

The fact that iPad and iPhone don't run Java right now isn't relevant. They very well might in the next 5 years. Things change fast!

Re: Oracle and Apple Announce OpenJDK Project for Mac OS X

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Post by tertius » Fri, Nov 12, 2010, 2:30 PM UTC

pluies wrote: post #8

This is off-topic, but I'm amazed by the descriptions at the end of TFA (I know, I know, it's a press release, but still...) Oracle is the world’s most complete, open and integrated business software and hardware systems company. (...) Let's grant integrated and complete, but definitely not "open". Though this is dwarfed by Apple's incredible self-praise: Apple designs Macs, the best personal computers in the world,…

I'm no fanboy, believe me. But most of that is pretty accurate.