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Re: Proper Breathing Brings Better Health

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Post by close04 » Tue, Jan 22, 2019, 2:56 PM UTC

faceplanted wrote: post #116

vidarh wrote: post #94

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It's not fud. I hurt my back several times because I didn't realise I didn't have sufficient flexibility to do these lifts safely. Now years later, hardly a week goes by that I don't see people doing these lifts badly. Your answer is a bit like the old joke: "Patient: doctor it hurts when I do this. Doctor: well, then don't do that". The reality is that while these are great exercises, they are exercises that are eas…

I think you two are talking across each other, he's saying that if you lift properly it's not easy to get injured, and you're not saying that it's easy to get injured deadlifting properly but that it's easy to deadlift wrong and therefor get injured. It's really quite rare that someone is deadlifting wrong the first time because they don't have the flexibility to do it properly compared to doing it wrong because they…

Even bomb disposal can be a safe thing if you do it perfectly right :). I think the issue (when you take off the coat of semantics) is that it's easy to do it wrong and injure yourself.

Re: Proper Breathing Brings Better Health

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Post by graeme » Tue, Jan 22, 2019, 3:38 PM UTC

Singletoned wrote: post #138

graeme wrote: post #37

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I hurt my back on a not so heavy deadlift. Had done them for two years prior, learned how to do them, etc But all it took was one day where I was probably too tired/stressed. It wasn't a serious injury, but that spot in my back is still tight and I haven't really been able to unlock it despite physio, massage etc May have had pre-existing tension which made it more likely. Dunno. But injury can happen more easily tha…

You should definitely read The Divided Mind by Dr John Sarno. The book has a very high success rate at solving long term back injuries.

I did, years ago. Didn't do anything at the time. I'm not convinced that his thesis is the cause of my own pain.

Of note, I'm not really functionally impaired by this tension. Like, I never say "my back, my back, I can't lift today". I just have some tense spots that reduce flexibility a little.

Is there a specific thing you should do after reading the book?

Re: Proper Breathing Brings Better Health

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Post by loco5niner » Tue, Jan 22, 2019, 3:55 PM UTC

samatman wrote: post #15

acangiano wrote: post #13

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It makes perfect sense, but it's worth noting that there are plenty of safer exercises for beginners that will improve core and posterior chain. Think glutes bridges, dead bugs, planks, Pallof press, etc. Some people jump straight to the big compounding lifts (because they are amazing for building strength) with no guidance from a trainer or much care for their form. You deadlift or squat heavy wrong and it's extreme…

This is FUD, basically. Yes, don’t start squatting and deadlifting without learning how to do it properly. Yes, start light, you only have one spine and two knees. No, it is not “extremely easy” to injure yourself if you show a modicum of good sense and avoid max lifting. I agree with GP that squats and deadlifts will improve posture in a relatively short period of time. They are among the best exercises, period, for…

Yeah... I hurt my knees doing squats. I suspect it was due to tight hamstrings but can't be sure. (I tried doing it right - following the Starting Strength book, not going to heavy, etc).

I'm fine now, but anytime I try to do squats again, my knees (patellar tendon) hurt.

Re: Proper Breathing Brings Better Health

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Post by jacobolus » Tue, Jan 22, 2019, 5:51 PM UTC

grawprog wrote: post #129

jacobolus wrote: post #73

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I’m curious how often these kinds of symptoms are caused by an undiagnosed chronic viral infection.

I'm pretty sure i've had a chronic sinus infection for a few years now. When I was a kid I was told I had narrow sinuses...I used to get ear infections pretty much any time i got sick. I find they don't drain properly. It always feels like there's liquid on one side. I can tell days it's worse, the area below my ear and jaw are warm to the touch and hurt to press. It comes and goes. The breathe right strips mentioned…

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Re: Proper Breathing Brings Better Health

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Post by agent008t » Wed, Jan 23, 2019, 9:20 AM UTC

loco5niner wrote: post #143

samatman wrote: post #15

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This is FUD, basically. Yes, don’t start squatting and deadlifting without learning how to do it properly. Yes, start light, you only have one spine and two knees. No, it is not “extremely easy” to injure yourself if you show a modicum of good sense and avoid max lifting. I agree with GP that squats and deadlifts will improve posture in a relatively short period of time. They are among the best exercises, period, for…

Yeah... I hurt my knees doing squats. I suspect it was due to tight hamstrings but can't be sure. (I tried doing it right - following the Starting Strength book, not going to heavy, etc). I'm fine now, but anytime I try to do squats again, my knees (patellar tendon) hurt.

The problem with most sports training programmes - and it has bugged me since I was a kid - is that their observed effectiveness suffers from survivorship bias. People that aren't doing well on the programme - are not making progress or get injured - simply stop following it and drop out.

It would be really nice to see the stats from an actual coach on every trainee of theirs, what their outcome was or why they stopped, with some before/after stats as well.