The more people support AMD by buying their hardware, the better the drivers will become. Obviously we should support the more open of the options, it's not like AMD can't deliver satisfactory hardware.
AMD Open Source Driver for Vulkan
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Re: AMD Open Source Driver for Vulkan
#62Sadly I constantly hear people say that you should get an Nvidia card for both Linux and FreeBSD, because the drivers are better. While I'm sure that Nvidias driver a good, it's kinda sad that the attitude is that AMD is a better friend of the open source community, but yeah, we're going with Nvidia. I get why, you have stuff to do and Nvidia performs better, but still it a little annoying. OpenBSD seems to be the on…
After years of having AMD video cards, I recently got a high end Nvidia card, GeForce GTX 1070 Ti. For 3-D gaming, Nvidia cards were clearly better performance vs price. However, dealing with the proprietary driver is just a pain in the ass. With an AMD card, the open source driver just worked. With Nvidia, I have to keep re-installing the proprietary driver. Sometimes it doesn't compile with the current kernel (e.g. Debian testing). Finding the correct driver to download and install is a pain (try using the 'links' on nvidia's site).
If I build another PC, I'm going to very strongly prefer an AMD card.
Re: AMD Open Source Driver for Vulkan
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
I use an nVidia GeForce 8200 (published in ~2007) in my mediacenter and I don't have problems with drivers (v340.xxx legacy series: latest update is v340.107 https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/135161/en... ) on Arch Linux. Same thing with a GTX 760 (currently using v390.42) on Gentoo: I kept that server running multiple times for many weeks at a time and never had crashes/weird things happening while…
the post you reply to probably means support for gl regarding features and performance. a server and a media center will do fine even without proprietary drivers... well, until someone update the color stuff in v4l again.
Maybe? But then probably even AMD/ATI does not keep on tweaking their drivers more than nVidia to improve performance & OpenGL-compliance for all their 12 years old HW... (but I might be wrong).
>>a server and a media center will do fine even without proprietary drivers...
Honestly: not sure (never tried). My big question mark involving the GPU frequency scaling (maybe now an issue only with "Nouveau"?) when using video filters (e.g. framerate sync and/or nice upscaling filters).
Re: AMD Open Source Driver for Vulkan
#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
I supported AMD several years because of this... Then I got tired of the low quality of both the open source, and the closed driver. Crashes, glitches in movies, flickering... Some time ago, I bought an Nvidia. It works like charm with the closed driver on Linux and windows. I do mainly games on Linux/windows, some gpgpu (machine learning with tensor flow), and the usual stuff. I couldn't be happier... Except if it w…
I purchased an AMD laptop precisely because I got tired of having to deal with NVidia, ether their glitchy proprietary driver breaking GNOME every so often, or Optimus being a pain via Bumblebee. Since switching to the AMD laptop, my experience has been smooth. My only worry is the upgrade path, there aren't that many high-performance AMD laptops out there and my next purchase is definitely AMD.
If the new 3rd generation Ryzen stuff ends up being as good as it looks, then I'd say we're in for a good year as far as mobile AMD hardware's concerned. There's a good chance that you have nothing to worry about as far as upgrade paths are considered.
Re: AMD Open Source Driver for Vulkan
#65Sadly I constantly hear people say that you should get an Nvidia card for both Linux and FreeBSD, because the drivers are better. While I'm sure that Nvidias driver a good, it's kinda sad that the attitude is that AMD is a better friend of the open source community, but yeah, we're going with Nvidia. I get why, you have stuff to do and Nvidia performs better, but still it a little annoying. OpenBSD seems to be the on…
I've gone through 3 different desktops and 4 different Nvidia GPUs in my Linux workstation over the last ~8 years and Nvidia's proprietary driver has never once been what I'd describe as "good"
There's regular display corruption and flickering on the desktop, most significantly on the second display.
All I need/want is basic 2D composition of the desktop, so maybe their 3D acceleration works better. But there doesn't seem to be any reason to put up with the crappy re-compilation path just to get kinda OK desktop performance with a heap of bugs.
Re: AMD Open Source Driver for Vulkan
#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
Leading with an accusation of substance abuse isn't civil or productive. Your comment may well be factually correct, but your tone here is inappropriate. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
It's not an accusation of drug use. "What are you smoking" is a US colloquialism that means that one's statement is so nonsensical that the most logical explanation is that the speaker was smoking marijuana at the time the statement was made (because the implied alternative is that the speaker is crazy or quite daft).
Please keep in mind though that this is not strictly a US site. To me (as an experienced, but non-native speaker) "what are you smoking" does not sound tongue-in-cheek at all.
Re: AMD Open Source Driver for Vulkan
#67I can't speak for anyone else, but because AMD has been opening up their drivers, the laptop I purchased six months ago was AMD based. I haven't done any kind of elaborate benchmarks, but as someone who runs Linux full-time, I want to support companies that make my life a bit easier. That said, I have had some issue with my computer having some weird graphical glitches, and then crashing...I don't know if that's the…
I've been exclusively buying AMD discrete graphics for the better part of a decade since they started developing their open driver.
Between a 4850, 7870, 290, and 580 I've been a satisfied customer. It was rough waters in 2012, but nowadays its flawless.
On the CPU side though... I do want to make a big upgrade this year. I've had a 4770k since release. 8 cores sounds pretty juicy. But AMD still has their proprietary PSP and unlike with the Intel ME I have no way to disable it. While it sucks giving Intel money when they have been no help disabling their government backdoor into my computer the fact the community has disabled it (assuming ME cleaner will work properly on whatever Intel CPUs come out this year) makes me lean towards buying another Intel chip. Not because I want to support them, but because AMD hasn't given me an alternative yet.
Re: AMD Open Source Driver for Vulkan
#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
The sad truth is that it takes a while for the open source drivers to solidify after any new release and going open source means not getting the newest hardware. Well, Intel actually seems to get their open source driver support in far enough ahead of time these days that you can just load the newest Ubuntu with them and it works, but that wasn't the case 5 years ago.
Most people don't care about having the newest hardware. The only cases that come to my mind are hardcore pc gamers, people who edit video, and people doing deep learning.
Maybe this is true for desktop PCs, but in my case I always had to be very careful when buying a new laptop/notebook (which basically always had the newest HW because it just came with it).
Re: AMD Open Source Driver for Vulkan
#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not an accusation of drug use. "What are you smoking" is a US colloquialism that means that one's statement is so nonsensical that the most logical explanation is that the speaker was smoking marijuana at the time the statement was made (because the implied alternative is that the speaker is crazy or quite daft).
Please keep in mind though that this is not strictly a US site. To me (as an experienced, but non-native speaker) "what are you smoking" does not sound tongue-in-cheek at all.
Please keep in mind that this site is operated by a US VC, on US hardware and software, for a US audience residing in a few tech-centric US cities.
US colloquialisms are perfectly appropriate on this site.
Re: AMD Open Source Driver for Vulkan
#70I can't speak for anyone else, but because AMD has been opening up their drivers, the laptop I purchased six months ago was AMD based. I haven't done any kind of elaborate benchmarks, but as someone who runs Linux full-time, I want to support companies that make my life a bit easier. That said, I have had some issue with my computer having some weird graphical glitches, and then crashing...I don't know if that's the…
I supported AMD several years because of this... Then I got tired of the low quality of both the open source, and the closed driver. Crashes, glitches in movies, flickering... Some time ago, I bought an Nvidia. It works like charm with the closed driver on Linux and windows. I do mainly games on Linux/windows, some gpgpu (machine learning with tensor flow), and the usual stuff. I couldn't be happier... Except if it w…
I thought it was interesting how they began forcing Windows users through a login page to associate identity, and a continuous background telemetry service, but not Linux users. The telemetry service needs to be running just to check for updates to the gaming card drivers.
At least, I personally didn't have that experience on Linux with proprietary driver when the Windows gaming rig did. They likely determined it wasn't worth the effort or Linux users would be more likely to lash back at the intrusion. Or it could have been a later target but still on their plan..
Have they changed this and forced their telemetry collection onto the Linux desktop yet?
I doubt they'd prereq it to install drivers for their ML or workstation cards. I'm a little more worried about their gaming/desktop cards.