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Backblaze Hard Drive Stats for 2018

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Re: Backblaze Hard Drive Stats for 2018

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Post by Semaphor »

trumped wrote: post #53
brianwski wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Disclaimer: I work at Backblaze so I'm biased. :-) > If you have terabytes to back up, are there still any backup services left that'll let you ship them a drive for a faster initial backup? Backblaze offers a "Backblaze Rapid Ingest Fireball" to allow you to ship us 60 TBytes of data on an appliance. https://www.backblaze.com/blog/introducing-backblazes-rapid-... If you only have 2 - 10 TBytes, I suggest you get a f…

but don't most ISPs have datacaps nowadays, Comcast has 1TB

No. Not sure how it is in the US though.

Re: Backblaze Hard Drive Stats for 2018

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Post by ericd »

atYevP wrote: post #47
zachruss92 wrote: post #31

I really appreciate BackBlaze opening up this data. While I don't purchase HDDs often, I always refer to these reports when deciding. They also open sourced their server chassis which is awesome! It's nice to see a reduction of the failure rates as a whole. It looks like the next few years will be some interesting times for the growth in storage capacities for HDDs.

Yev from Backblaze here -> Glad you're enjoying the stats!

These reports were super helpful when we were choosing how to kit out our servers (we went all HGST as a result). It's pretty hard to find good reliability data otherwise. So, a really big thanks from us.

Re: Backblaze Hard Drive Stats for 2018

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Post by kiwijamo »

eps wrote: post #63
e40 wrote: post #58

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I have. Last time I bought a bunch of drives for a RAID array, I used the WD utility to test each of them. 1 of the 6 failed the test.

"Failed" as in "with an IO error" as in "got the wrong data back"? Because if it's the latter, it could've been caused by some other part of IO stack and not necessarily the drive itself.

I believe the WD utility sends a command to the drive so it does a self test. That would eliminate any upper layers issues.

Re: Backblaze Hard Drive Stats for 2018

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Post by leowoo91 »

brianwski wrote: post #34
metalliqaz wrote: post #22

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Good thing they charge me $0.94 a month for my B2 storage. Gotta make that budget from somewhere!

Disclaimer: I work at Backblaze. > Good thing they charge me $0.94 a month for my B2 storage. We thank you for your business! :-) The absolute beauty of Backblaze B2 (or Amazon S3 or Azure) is that we can build a storage system at scale, and sell off all the little pieces of that. You win because you get a fair price on a sliver, and we win because we add up 100,000 customers like you and make about $1 million per ye…

AWS nerd here, I recently googled you guys and found out you have 1/4 bandwith cost already. See you soon for my upcoming project.

Re: Backblaze Hard Drive Stats for 2018

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Post by Rebelgecko »

I wonder if they have states failure rate based on a drive's manufacturing or installation date? It looks like there's a bit of a bathtub curve, and it would be interesting to see if that's attributed to individual drives having a tendency to fail quickly (if they're going to), or if drives are less likely to crap out once their model has been manufactured for a few years

Re: Backblaze Hard Drive Stats for 2018

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Post by mikece »

While I've heard lots of great things about the Backblaze reports, I've noticed in comments on NewEgg, Amazon, etc that the SKUs mentioned in the report frequently aren't available anymore. I've never had problems with WD Red drives though I don't purchase them all from the same vendor at the same time to make sure I get drives from different lots in case of a lot defect.

Re: Backblaze Hard Drive Stats for 2018

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Post by akulbe »

brianwski wrote: post #32
akulbe wrote: post #24

I realize my comment is a tangent. I'm hoping folks might be understanding and hopefully have some advice. If you have terabytes to back up, are there still any backup services left that'll let you ship them a drive for a faster initial backup?

Disclaimer: I work at Backblaze so I'm biased. :-) > If you have terabytes to back up, are there still any backup services left that'll let you ship them a drive for a faster initial backup? Backblaze offers a "Backblaze Rapid Ingest Fireball" to allow you to ship us 60 TBytes of data on an appliance. https://www.backblaze.com/blog/introducing-backblazes-rapid-... If you only have 2 - 10 TBytes, I suggest you get a f…

Hi Brian,

Thank you for reaching out. I love it when company folks will get into the conversation on HN.

As far as connection, I've got 300/300 from Frontier. It's good, and I can help out my friends. But more questions below...

I had been using CrashPlan for years. Converted to their business plan when they decided to ditch the Consumer stuff.

My confidence in their viability/user experience has eroded. I have personally ditched their service. My concern is for some family members who I've also had on my plan. I think they have roughly ~3TB of photos backed up. I want to find them a new home.

Color me skeptical that folks outside of the public cloud providers are going to be around in 10 years.

Convince me why Backblaze is a good option to send folks to, and please understand, I'm not trying to be a jerk. I'm just wary after having "the CrashPlan experience." Know what I mean?

Thanks.

Re: Backblaze Hard Drive Stats for 2018

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Post by mark-r »

standardUser wrote: post #36
linsomniac wrote: post #16

Anything interesting in this one? I've stopped reading them because they all seem to be "Seagates fail kind of a lot but we use them because reasons. HGST doesn't fail a lot, but we also have statistically insignificant numbers of them, so ."

"Seagates fail kind of a lot..." That Seagate 10 TB was the singular standout in terms of reliability. Maybe it is worth checking out.

If there's one thing I've learned from seeing these reports over the years, it's that the specific drive model matters more than the brand.

Re: Backblaze Hard Drive Stats for 2018

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Post by metalliqaz »

leowoo91 wrote: post #74
brianwski wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Disclaimer: I work at Backblaze. > Good thing they charge me $0.94 a month for my B2 storage. We thank you for your business! :-) The absolute beauty of Backblaze B2 (or Amazon S3 or Azure) is that we can build a storage system at scale, and sell off all the little pieces of that. You win because you get a fair price on a sliver, and we win because we add up 100,000 customers like you and make about $1 million per ye…

AWS nerd here, I recently googled you guys and found out you have 1/4 bandwith cost already. See you soon for my upcoming project.

I like my B2. I also like that Backblaze is one of those companies that does one thing and does it very well.
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