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Why would they do that, It makes zero sense to assume they would do that and deliberately break their privacy policies.
Oh, but it somehow makes sense to assume the other way for Facebook?
Facebook is the worst thing that's ever happened to the internet
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Re: Facebook is the worst thing that's ever happened to the internet
#132You know - my wife and I were talking about Facebook the other day and the role it plays in 'the way society acts' these days. We came to the conclusion that the vast majority of feeds are filled with posts from sites that other like-minded people also have in their feeds. This causes the comments on those posts on your feed to mostly be filled with people whose feelings align with your own. I think that's dangerous,…
Re: Facebook is the worst thing that's ever happened to the internet
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Honestly, outside of the tech innovation, FB's biggest "in" was its exclusivity. - First, you HAD to have a Harvard .edu address. For a lot of the general public, Harvard is top of mind when people think 'elite' institution - Next, they expanded it, but only to other US schools with .edu domains. That's when I joined, around 2005. - Finally, they opened it up to the general public everywhere, and by that time they we…
adding to that, i believe: fb is one of the first social implementation of b.j. fogg's behavior model + and engineered addiction, and the subsequent commoditization of likes and shares
> fb is one of the first social implementation of b.j. fogg's behavior model + and engineered addiction, and the subsequent commoditization of likes and shares
Re: Facebook is the worst thing that's ever happened to the internet
#134Before Facebook, if I lost someone's contact information, and drifted outside of their social circle for a long enough time, chances were I would never ever see or speak to that person again. Before Facebook, if people wanted to organize conversation and cooperation on an information technology platform, the options were to pay $X00-$X000 for a proprietary system, get lucky enough to know about mailing lists, have so…
> Before Facebook, if people wanted to organize conversation and cooperation on an information technology platform, the options were to pay $X00-$X000 for a proprietary system, get lucky enough to know about mailing lists, have someone who knew sysadmin do it basically for free, or have everyone learn how to use something like IRC. Did you just drop off the planet between 1995 - 2005? Poor Myspace... everybody just f…
The messengers were different beasts; in fact, Facebook didn't get instant messaging for quite some time.
Facebook had two things going for it over the other early social networks - the UI was comparatively good, and they platform-ized early. Nowadays folks get angry about "apps that steal your data" but back in that era the apps were the interesting thing. Facebook itself didn't have an event planning system; you relied on third party apps for that.
Facebook also executed well in a way that the other platforms didn't. Friendster just outright failed to scale. But even the other platforms were stuck following the conceptual model of a dating website - they were all about customizing your "page". Zuckerberg gets credit for recognizing the value of a "feed of what your friends are up to" and shifting the core interaction, despite angry protests from entrenched users.
Saying "Facebook didn't invent social networking" is far too dismissive.
Re: Facebook is the worst thing that's ever happened to the internet
#135The websites I constantly use every single day: google.com maps.google.com youtube.com wikipedia.org weather.gov stackoverflow.com For almost 20 years, I've been using Google for dozens of random searches every single day. Its utility to help me find information is unmatched. And Youtube -- even with the ads -- adds value to my life because of all the helpful tutorials and DIY content I can view for free. On the othe…
I don't get this. Google tracks more of your data than Facebook and yet you are praising google and denouncing facebook? Also the silliness about russian election meddling has got to stop. The "russians" also spent a few thousand on google/youtube too. A few thousand in ad spending isn't going to affect an election where billions are spent. This seems to be a constant here for some odd reason. Facebook does X hence f…
Yes, there are stories[0] that say they track more data but the difference is Facebook's track record for abuse. So far, I'm unaware of any harm Google has done with my history of search queries tied to my wifi MAC address (as another poster commented I should worry about).
>Google does the same X hence google is good.
No, I don't buy Google's "don't be evil" slogan.
>To me they are all equally bad and equally good.
I disagree. They are different in severity. I think Facebook in particular has repeatedly demonstrated a track record of unethical behavior. So far, I think the evidence shows Mark Z has a different set of ethics and principles than folks like Larry Page and Tim Cook.
This doesn't mean I give Google a free pass or that I'm not wary of them. So far, my "trade" with using Google's search engine seems fair and I will stop using them when proven otherwise. I can't say the same for Facebook.
[0] https://www.wsj.com/articles/who-has-more-of-your-personal-d...
Re: Facebook is the worst thing that's ever happened to the internet
#136The websites I constantly use every single day: google.com maps.google.com youtube.com wikipedia.org weather.gov stackoverflow.com For almost 20 years, I've been using Google for dozens of random searches every single day. Its utility to help me find information is unmatched. And Youtube -- even with the ads -- adds value to my life because of all the helpful tutorials and DIY content I can view for free. On the othe…
You mean like the phone book?
Re: Facebook is the worst thing that's ever happened to the internet
#137Before Facebook, if I lost someone's contact information, and drifted outside of their social circle for a long enough time, chances were I would never ever see or speak to that person again. Before Facebook, if people wanted to organize conversation and cooperation on an information technology platform, the options were to pay $X00-$X000 for a proprietary system, get lucky enough to know about mailing lists, have so…
Bear with me here... Was that such a terrible thing? I always dreamed about reconnecting with old friends, and then I did, and many times reality did not live up.
Re: Facebook is the worst thing that's ever happened to the internet
#138You know - my wife and I were talking about Facebook the other day and the role it plays in 'the way society acts' these days. We came to the conclusion that the vast majority of feeds are filled with posts from sites that other like-minded people also have in their feeds. This causes the comments on those posts on your feed to mostly be filled with people whose feelings align with your own. I think that's dangerous,…
All of the fixes, and improvements are simply retuning maneuvers to match the propaganda of the day, I wholeheartedly believe that cuckerborg will go down in history as one of the most despicable thought criminals of this existence.
Re: Facebook is the worst thing that's ever happened to the internet
#139You know - my wife and I were talking about Facebook the other day and the role it plays in 'the way society acts' these days. We came to the conclusion that the vast majority of feeds are filled with posts from sites that other like-minded people also have in their feeds. This causes the comments on those posts on your feed to mostly be filled with people whose feelings align with your own. I think that's dangerous,…
Bubbles are real, but not only on Facebook. People will watch TV stations that have content that aligns with their world view. They'll read news papers that do the same. Listen to people who say things they like. This isn't strictly Facebook issue.
Re: Facebook is the worst thing that's ever happened to the internet
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The internet may get better, but it is not not guaranteed. And I predict that if it does it will be despite Facebook, not because of, or with it. Social networking was NOT an enormous pain in the ass. Everybody had, and still has email - it was the gateway to the internet. Roughly since the beginning of the internet. And all the people that joined. Email got used in almost all of the ways that Facebook did. In additi…
email addresses were treated as disposable and temporary from how i remember it before gmail went mainstream. providers came and went and custom domains for emails were extremely rare... at least in my circles
Not at all. On the consumer level they were typically associated with your ISP account. So you'd get to be @
My parents still have the email they set up with the minuscule local cable company in the early 2000's. That's only the second email they've ever had outside of the dialup provider email they had in the late 90's (when internet finally came to our small town)