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Re: Facebook is the worst thing that's ever happened to the internet

#42
this guy is obsessed with Facebook, while justifying his presence on Twitter which has the exact same business model, with various excuses. He is a troll trying to generate clicks and visibility. That's all.

If he really was serious about hating the free social network / paid for by targeted advertising model, he would have gotten off Twitter. But he has a lot of followers there and it's an effective marketing tool for him.

Re: Facebook is the worst thing that's ever happened to the internet

#43

Top reply: >What do you think of Facebook-owned products? IG started out like a mobile Flickr in the early days, a place for personal creativity and documentation, but now has become an ad-filled place to peacock, gather likes, and promote. I wonder about the psychological impact on people. His response: >Plenty of studies have confirmed that Instagram is having a terrible effect on the psychology of many people. Als…

It is possible to be ad-filled without the peacocking or like gathering or promoting. The addition and promotion of social features is a choice that aligns with various KPIs but has huge negative externalities

I see influencers as a net negative for society but in terms of getting people to actually engage with advertised products, it's pretty brilliant. Before Instagram, a brand would put out ads with a rotating cast of "characters" (i.e. models, actors) that got people to think "I want to be more like that person and buying this will help", which worked, but lacked a real connection with the "characters". Instagram inverted that model and allows you to follow the characters, become more connected, interact with them, and follow their "tastes". The legacy equivalent would be something like sponsorships for pro athletes, but they've expanded it into domains like fashion, cookware, etc. while adding the interactive component.

Re: Facebook is the worst thing that's ever happened to the internet

#45
I know, and cars are the worst thing to ever happen to the planet, synthesizers are the worst thing to ever happen to music, etc. Worst thing to happen to pundits? The inability to recognize the value of something to the common person beyond the negatives they focus upon.

Re: Facebook is the worst thing that's ever happened to the internet

#46

Before Facebook, if I lost someone's contact information, and drifted outside of their social circle for a long enough time, chances were I would never ever see or speak to that person again. Before Facebook, if people wanted to organize conversation and cooperation on an information technology platform, the options were to pay $X00-$X000 for a proprietary system, get lucky enough to know about mailing lists, have so…

While this may all be true, how do we prevent Facebook from becoming a "factory town"?

As more and more of our seemingly public discourse moves online, we are congregating in very much non-public spaces that have their own motives that are often at odds with the public good.

I know Facebook, Twitter and co. need to make money somehow, that's fine, but there's more to this..

How do we reconcile US-based for-profit corporations becoming the stewards of public discourse for an ever-growing part of the world's population?

Re: Facebook is the worst thing that's ever happened to the internet

#48
The websites I constantly use every single day:

  google.com
  maps.google.com
  youtube.com
  wikipedia.org
  weather.gov
  stackoverflow.com
For almost 20 years, I've been using Google for dozens of random searches every single day. Its utility to help me find information is unmatched. And Youtube -- even with the ads -- adds value to my life because of all the helpful tutorials and DIY content I can view for free.

On the other hand, I've never needed to create accounts for Facebook or LinkedIn. Unlike google/wikipedia/stackoverflow, I think of Facebook as my adversary that's reckless with personal data and harming me. I assume they are developing more unethical uses of personal data but we don't know about them yet because an ex-Facebook employee hasn't publicized them. The questionable ethics starts at the top with Mark Z.

I do think humanity would be served by a "real names" database by an entity we could trust to help us connect with each other. Unfortunately, that valuable info is currently held by an unethical company like Facebook. (My previous comment about this.[0]) They abuse their stewardship of the social graph which is why I adamantly avoid them.

Facebook was a bad actor even before all the revelations about Russian funded political ads to hijack the election.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18728061

Re: Facebook is the worst thing that's ever happened to the internet

#49

Before Facebook, if I lost someone's contact information, and drifted outside of their social circle for a long enough time, chances were I would never ever see or speak to that person again. Before Facebook, if people wanted to organize conversation and cooperation on an information technology platform, the options were to pay $X00-$X000 for a proprietary system, get lucky enough to know about mailing lists, have so…

That is exactly how I feel, we have something that can be used for good things and bad things. It's not surprising that people use it for bad things, and our inexperience in responsibly using these platforms enables this misuse.

However watch-out, things will get better when the baby turns 1, until about 13, then it will get worse... much worse!!!

Re: Facebook is the worst thing that's ever happened to the internet

#50
I personally loved the first years of fb even if I never been a social network person.

Now I think that company ( in terms of fb product) should focus how to be still facebook of the first years with innovations.

Because right now my traction to use facebook is just read news or to follow some companies that I like.

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