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“The Linux of social media” – How LiveJournal pioneered, then lost, blogging

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Re: “The Linux of social media” – How LiveJournal pioneered, then lost, blogging

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Post by ben_w »

Rather frustratingly, LiveJournal managed to leak my real password and email address at some point. The password was only used on that domain (which is how I knew they leaked it), but I’m still getting bitcoin scam attempts and so far 100% have been on the email address attached to that leaked password: https://kitsunesoftware.wordpress.com/2018/08/09/anatomy-of-...

If I’d known it was leakable, I would’ve used a one-account email address as well as a one-account password. The scams themselves are getting quite disturbing.

Re: “The Linux of social media” – How LiveJournal pioneered, then lost, blogging

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Post by sneak »

treve wrote: post #38

LJ gave us OpenID, Memcached, MogileFS and Gearman. I was a fan of all of them. Such amazing technologies. OpenID specifically was (to me) such a BIG idea that I was convinced it would take over authentication systems everywhere. On the practical side I was a huge Memcached fan and used Gearman quite a bit too. It really expanded for me what was possible with PHP. Super nostalgic for that time. It felt like a new fro…

I think you may have misspelled @bradfitz. :)

Re: “The Linux of social media” – How LiveJournal pioneered, then lost, blogging

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Post by cirgue »

robjan wrote: post #12

It seems that blogging for the sake of blogging has been mostly lost, to be honest. I miss the time when blogs were more than self promotion and content marketing.

Part of the problem is that our discoverability mechanisms on the internet now massively favor monetized content. I for one would happily use an 'indie' search engine that favors lightly monetized/non-monetized content.

Re: “The Linux of social media” – How LiveJournal pioneered, then lost, blogging

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Post by rndgermandude »

LukeShu wrote: post #20
emilsedgh wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Linux kernel has a good presence on the mobile through Android but the Linux ecosystem aka GNU/Linux does not. And it seems that Google has plans to swap Linux with Fuschia in the long term.

Linux is the kernel. The rest of it is... not Linux. It's almost like RMS had a point with the rant that he gets mocked for.

Most of what actually runs in userland on a desktop and even server isn't GNU. Sure, you got the glibc, bash and coreutils and a bunch of other shell tools. A lot of it is just a matter of preference and/or tradition; there is nothing making a lot of these tools unique and you could supplant a lot with alternatives e.g. from the BSDs.

But your modern desktop is probably Gnome or KDE or similar or something like i3 or similar. And tons of users run a shell other than bash. So why not KDE/Linux?

Your servers probably run stuff like containers, or node servers or php ones or java ones, or some database software and the like. How much of that is developed under the umbrella of GNU?

Your browsers most likely aren't GNU, your music players probably are not either, your videos get decoded and encoded by ffmpeg. Few probably edit their documents in GNU software, and even when it comes to text, GNU editors are far from dominant.

Few systems probably have their usage dominated by GNU (not merely GPL licensed) software, even if you count time spent in glibc.

So, to still insist that it's "GNU/Linux" sounds... a bit silly and narcissistic to me, given all the non GNU stuff that runs on a typical system and doesn't get - let alone requests - special mention.

Re: “The Linux of social media” – How LiveJournal pioneered, then lost, blogging

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Post by Iwan-Zotow »

oytis wrote: post #8

In Russia the popularity of livejournal has also dropped with the advent of Facebook, and there it has nothing to do with obscene fan fiction. Facebook has just found a more addictive model with a lower entry barrier. On the bright side we now have Telegram, which allows for a similar communication style, just without comments (which is IMO a good thing as well).

VK.com is facebook of Russia

Re: “The Linux of social media” – How LiveJournal pioneered, then lost, blogging

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Post by derivatives »

SolaceQuantum wrote: post #17

Although this article brings up Dreamwidth it doesn't actually describe the full relationship behind DW and LJ. When LJ banned adult fandom fanfic, the group moved to DW and also a separate fanfiction site ArchiveOfOurOwn(AO3). AO3 in particular is part of an organization that pushes real legal change for the freedom of derivative works. LJ did not have this explicit in its creation and so fanfic writers universally…

Adult fan fiction, though.

It’s... It’s just...

Honestly, it makes a lot of sense to eschew the genre, no matter your stance on legality, free speech or whatever.

Re: “The Linux of social media” – How LiveJournal pioneered, then lost, blogging

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Post by bloak »

rndgermandude wrote: post #44
LukeShu wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Linux is the kernel. The rest of it is... not Linux. It's almost like RMS had a point with the rant that he gets mocked for.

Most of what actually runs in userland on a desktop and even server isn't GNU. Sure, you got the glibc, bash and coreutils and a bunch of other shell tools. A lot of it is just a matter of preference and/or tradition; there is nothing making a lot of these tools unique and you could supplant a lot with alternatives e.g. from the BSDs. But your modern desktop is probably Gnome or KDE or similar or something like i3 or…

It seems reasonable to use the term "GNU/Linux" to refer to a system based on Linux and the GNU C library and utilities. You could also just call it "Linux", but with the term "GNU/Linux" you distinguish it from Android and BusyBox-based systems (with some other, smaller C library, such as musl), which are also "Linux".

Certainly, you'd expect most of the CPU time to be spent in application software, but we're talking about how to name the platform, aren't we?

Re: “The Linux of social media” – How LiveJournal pioneered, then lost, blogging

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Post by claudiawerner »

nailer wrote: post #18
simion314 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Well sure, but a large part of the regular userbase (not religious folk) were not comfortable with adults writing pornography I never used it but why would a non religious activist do something about it, complain, sign petitions, or even waste a thought about what some character is doing in a fictional world they don't read. Most probably as always there is a vocal minority

In case it's not glaringly obvious, I don't think an adult would care about fictional children. Livejournal users, did, however, care about other adults who are sexually attracted to children.

>Livejournal users, did, however, care about other adults who are sexually attracted to children.

What makes you say that the people writing the stories had a sexual attraction to children? (and by 'children' I mean as we commonly understand it: real children). I wouldn't say that a vore or zombie fetishist wants to be eaten, eat people or have sex with the dead, nor would I say that a My Little Pony fetishist wants to have sex with horses, and to use a more common example: people into incest pornography (which appears to be extremely popular online, much more so than the rate of incest crimes reported) don't generally want to have sex with their family members and people with rape fantasies generally don't want to rape or be raped.

Re: “The Linux of social media” – How LiveJournal pioneered, then lost, blogging

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Post by bdcravens »

cirgue wrote: post #43
robjan wrote: post #12

It seems that blogging for the sake of blogging has been mostly lost, to be honest. I miss the time when blogs were more than self promotion and content marketing.

Part of the problem is that our discoverability mechanisms on the internet now massively favor monetized content. I for one would happily use an 'indie' search engine that favors lightly monetized/non-monetized content.

Would you pay for that search engine?
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