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Is screen time good or bad? It’s not that simple

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Re: Is screen time good or bad? It’s not that simple

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Meta-analyses aren't science, either. They're hardly more than commentary as it's very easy to interpret many studies in a particular way.

Out of curiosity how does one arrive at that cognitive veiwpoint? I can't seem to find my way there.

If we assume it's true for arguments sake then you can't read a meta-analysis of meta-analyses in order to reach that conclusion because such an act wouldn't be deemed a legitimate source of information...

So how do you get there? What's the path to seeing things from that specific angle?

Re: Is screen time good or bad? It’s not that simple

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Well I think this depends on what you're measuring as the impact of screen time. There are some negative effects of screen time that are not in doubt. It leads to a sedentary life style, this has negative impacts on fitness and health. It also isn't great for your eyes to maintain the same focal distance for long periods of time.

The same is true for reading a book but you don't see people up in arms about that.

I have this specific memory in primary school of sitting by myself during class when everyone else was either on the mat or doing whatever the order of the day was and I was absorbed in reading a stars wars novel to the complete exclusion of what I was supposed to be doing.

I never shut up in class and would constantly talk on the mat to other kids and was often separated for that. I think the teacher just left me the hell alone absorbed in my Star Wars novel that day because at least I wasn't distracting anyone.

Fond memory that.

Re: Is screen time good or bad? It’s not that simple

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The same is true for reading a book but you don't see people up in arms about that.

I think you overestimate most people’s tolerance for children who are always reading. My interest was not exactly reinforced by adult praise and encouragement all the time. I’m confident there are plenty of people who got copious negative reinforcement for reading. > [Writing] will create forgetfulness in the learners’ souls, because they will not use their memories; they will trust to the external written characters…

Well, ya know, Socrates was great and all, but this particular theory isn't exactly supported by the millennia that came after him.

Re: Is screen time good or bad? It’s not that simple

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"Screen time" != "Screen time". That's my main problem with all this "screen time is bad" stuff. There's a huge difference between a kid spending 2 hours playing Flappy Bird and spending 2 hours playing with an educational app, or drawing/painting in an app, or watching tutorials on YouTube. It's like saying "time at the park is bad for you" because some kids go to the park to smoke cigarettes and drink alcohol. Scre…

but even then excessive screen time is still bad because of what it precludes the kid from doing instead. like socializing or exercise. but that’s in the extreme case and would also apply to excessive anything, like reading

Likewise excessive socializing or exercise would preclude kids from reading or screen time. I don't see your point.

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but even then excessive screen time is still bad because of what it precludes the kid from doing instead. like socializing or exercise. but that’s in the extreme case and would also apply to excessive anything, like reading

Likewise excessive socializing or exercise would preclude kids from reading or screen time. I don't see your point.

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Re: Is screen time good or bad? It’s not that simple

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Well I think this depends on what you're measuring as the impact of screen time. There are some negative effects of screen time that are not in doubt. It leads to a sedentary life style, this has negative impacts on fitness and health. It also isn't great for your eyes to maintain the same focal distance for long periods of time.

The same is true for reading a book but you don't see people up in arms about that.

I've never found myself unable to stop reading a book even when I knew I should be doing something else. Like now. I should be getting some sleep but instead I'm reading/commenting about screen time. I think, mobile devices especially, are addictive in ways that prior media was just not. I often feel the way I felt after a few months of being a regular smoker - not really getting much pleasure from being online and knowing that I'm not really learning anything useful, but not really able to stop either. (I should note I did quit smoking entirely shortly after getting to that point though)

Re: Is screen time good or bad? It’s not that simple

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The same is true for reading a book but you don't see people up in arms about that.

I've never found myself unable to stop reading a book even when I knew I should be doing something else. Like now. I should be getting some sleep but instead I'm reading/commenting about screen time. I think, mobile devices especially, are addictive in ways that prior media was just not. I often feel the way I felt after a few months of being a regular smoker - not really getting much pleasure from being online and k…

I have certainly had the same experience with a book.

Re: Is screen time good or bad? It’s not that simple

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Well I think this depends on what you're measuring as the impact of screen time. There are some negative effects of screen time that are not in doubt. It leads to a sedentary life style, this has negative impacts on fitness and health. It also isn't great for your eyes to maintain the same focal distance for long periods of time.

Screen exposure before bedtime can also drastically affect sleep. Different color temperature and intensity and all, but on top of that is also the barrage of information that the screens deliver, which keeps our minds on alert. I find that I'm sleeping much better now that I turn off all screens at least half an hour before I start getting ready to go to sleep.

One could argue that if you were solving a complex problem that particular day, and it bothered you enough, you would still be thinking about it before going to bed. Wouldn't that keep your mind alert. As far as light intensity and color goes, many Asian countries have daylight florescent tube lights in their homes just like the ones in offices in US. But no one's complaining about drastic sleep deprivation in Asian countries with bright lights emitting all sorts of spectra

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I've never found myself unable to stop reading a book even when I knew I should be doing something else. Like now. I should be getting some sleep but instead I'm reading/commenting about screen time. I think, mobile devices especially, are addictive in ways that prior media was just not. I often feel the way I felt after a few months of being a regular smoker - not really getting much pleasure from being online and k…

I have certainly had the same experience with a book.

Yeah but how long does it take to read a book? Even if someone was binging on War and Peace, or The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, one is addicted only for a few weeks or months at most- the internet is infinite.

Re: Is screen time good or bad? It’s not that simple

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Screen exposure before bedtime can also drastically affect sleep. Different color temperature and intensity and all, but on top of that is also the barrage of information that the screens deliver, which keeps our minds on alert. I find that I'm sleeping much better now that I turn off all screens at least half an hour before I start getting ready to go to sleep.

One could argue that if you were solving a complex problem that particular day, and it bothered you enough, you would still be thinking about it before going to bed. Wouldn't that keep your mind alert. As far as light intensity and color goes, many Asian countries have daylight florescent tube lights in their homes just like the ones in offices in US. But no one's complaining about drastic sleep deprivation in Asian…

Yes, but by pumping oneself with information is to artificially induce complex problems. It's artificially inducing strain. Why excuse self-inflicted stress by saying that such stress occurs naturally as well?

Sleep deprivation is a major problem in Asian countries, but for different reasons:

https://www.cnbc.com/2014/08/21/singaporeans-among-most-slee...

http://www.atimes.com/article/hidden-costs-asias-walking-dea...

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