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Re: Facebook launches petition feature, its next battlefield

#21
This does seem like something of a hostage to fortune, I can't imagine how they intend to moderate it. Obviously people are going to poll their echo-chamber in support of toxic ideas.

Even more alarming for Facebook, what if their polls come to be seen as having legitimate democratic force - what Government is going to be comfortable with that?

I suspect a dogmatic belief in the goodness of Facebook triumphed over reasoned reflection on the likely uses of this feature.

Re: Facebook launches petition feature, its next battlefield

#23
post #5

Well, at least this will hasten their death. Hopefully people are leaving FB because of their toxic "political discussions" (more like insult-flinging), and with this crap, they'll stay away even more from it, because every time they log in, they'll see Wendy is telling them to support her cause of vegan lipsticks, or similar.

>Hopefully people are leaving FB because of their toxic "political discussions" (more like insult-flinging)... If that were the case, reddit should be suffering the same mass exodus plight but - it seems to me - that people (predominantly in the states) revel in that sort of behaviour.

Due to the way reddit is subdivided, it mostly keeps that toxicity quarantined to the groups that revel in it. For people who want to avoid it, it isn't particularly difficult to.

Re: Facebook launches petition feature, its next battlefield

#26
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Hopefully people are leaving FB because of their toxic "political discussions" (more like insult-flinging)... If that were the case, reddit should be suffering the same mass exodus plight but - it seems to me - that people (predominantly in the states) revel in that sort of behaviour.

One could argue that the anonymity of Reddit in addition to the mods encourages a civil discussion

Sure, but it is a strange argument: morality is very sensitive to context, but in anonymous discussions lack most context and have to guess it.

So anonymous discussions are largely free of the restrictions imposed by the notions of common decency, so any civil discourse in unregulated media is a minor miracle.

Re: Facebook launches petition feature, its next battlefield

#29
post #5

Well, at least this will hasten their death. Hopefully people are leaving FB because of their toxic "political discussions" (more like insult-flinging), and with this crap, they'll stay away even more from it, because every time they log in, they'll see Wendy is telling them to support her cause of vegan lipsticks, or similar.

>Hopefully people are leaving FB because of their toxic "political discussions" (more like insult-flinging)... If that were the case, reddit should be suffering the same mass exodus plight but - it seems to me - that people (predominantly in the states) revel in that sort of behaviour.

You can use reddit and completely avoid politics.

Re: Facebook launches petition feature, its next battlefield

#30

What happens when, say, Iran wants and - legally - requests the identities of everyone that supports the "Democracy in Iran" group?

I don't think facebook is very used in Iran, at least it was blocked in 2015.

The interesting question is what happens when Turkey asks for the members of a "justice for unfairly sacked teachers" petition, or Saudi Arabia asking for the supporters of the local "End discrimination of Shia" petition.

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