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Facebook's '10 Year Challenge' Is Just a Harmless Meme–Right?

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Re: Facebook's '10 Year Challenge' Is Just a Harmless Meme–Right?

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Post by elanora96 »

praneshp wrote: post #40
tw1010 wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't believe that for a second, it totally sounds like a conspiracy.

If you were going for a joke, nice one! If serious, I can confirm that I saw this on reddit a few days ago too.

I saw it as well, honestly I think journalists (the kind that are closer to glorified bloggers) have been doing this for quite awhile though. I can't remember what site it was for sure, maybe cracked, but I remember looking at the recent articles and it looked like a tl;dr of some of the top reddit posts of the week.

Re: Facebook's '10 Year Challenge' Is Just a Harmless Meme–Right?

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Post by nullymcnull »

ricardobeat wrote: post #68
nullymcnull wrote: post #67

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You're really reaching now. People were regularly using phone cameras long before smartphones. By the time smartphones were a few gens in it was ultra common, and a big benefit of them (that even non-technical people could understand) was that you could use wifi whenever possible and avoid data charges (which really weren't much higher then than now in most markets; "unlimited" plans were more common too). Also the 3…

In 2008 Facebook itself was in its infancy. Orkut was still the largest social network, only toppled around 2011. The majority of the world was definitely not uploading any phone pictures anywhere .

> In 2008 Facebook itself was in infancy

That's quite an overstatement, to put it very mildly. Facebook was allowing open non-.edu signups by 2006, and the buzz around it from it's school success was immense. By 2008 it certainly wasn't seeing a critical mass of boomers and other late(st) adopters, but it was still huge by any measure - 100 million users, and growing with unprecedented speed.

People were absolutely already uploading phone pictures to FB and other sites by then; I think there may even have been Facebook apps shipping on non-smartphones by that time, it was one of the earliest things carriers used to flog data plans. I agree that "the majority of the world" wasn't uploading phone pictures anywhere by then, but then I'd be surprised if that rather high bar has been reached today either.

Re: Facebook's '10 Year Challenge' Is Just a Harmless Meme–Right?

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Post by baroffoos »

cmmartin wrote: post #54
Kylekramer wrote: post #42

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It tries and fails to address it. I could barely count the number of zeros I would have to put in front of the 1 in the percentage of Facebook's photo data this meme covers. And a good portion of their dataset will have EXIF timestamps. Training an algorithm on the meme only would be insane waste of their data set.

They don't need everyone to train their AI to detect aging. They don't even need a substantial sample size. All humans age in relatively similar ways.

Why would they even bother with this when they already have much better data though.

Re: Facebook's '10 Year Challenge' Is Just a Harmless Meme–Right?

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Post by baroffoos »

0xfffff wrote: post #62
thatguyagain wrote: post #12

This is just stupid. Even if Facebook wanted to do something like this, they have the data. Millions and millions of photos are already time stamped.

also, did you read the article? thats even addressed

In a very poor way which still leaves the question open.

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Post by acct1771 »

corobo wrote: post #14
flocial wrote: post #8

Facebook already has access to a larger repository of photos going back over a decade and all the years inbetween along with decent face recognition to create a much bigger dataset than resorting to a hashtag challenge. But I guess that wouldn't be newsworthy.

That is assuming it's Facebook training the algorithm

Just say what you're saying. It's Feds. And they're the biggest social influencers around.

Re: Facebook's '10 Year Challenge' Is Just a Harmless Meme–Right?

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Post by colordrops »

elanora96 wrote: post #71
praneshp wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you were going for a joke, nice one! If serious, I can confirm that I saw this on reddit a few days ago too.

I saw it as well, honestly I think journalists (the kind that are closer to glorified bloggers) have been doing this for quite awhile though. I can't remember what site it was for sure, maybe cracked, but I remember looking at the recent articles and it looked like a tl;dr of some of the top reddit posts of the week.

I've definitely noticed that with Cracked.

Re: Facebook's '10 Year Challenge' Is Just a Harmless Meme–Right?

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Post by ricardobeat »

nullymcnull wrote: post #72
ricardobeat wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In 2008 Facebook itself was in its infancy. Orkut was still the largest social network, only toppled around 2011. The majority of the world was definitely not uploading any phone pictures anywhere .

> In 2008 Facebook itself was in infancy That's quite an overstatement, to put it very mildly. Facebook was allowing open non-.edu signups by 2006, and the buzz around it from it's school success was immense. By 2008 it certainly wasn't seeing a critical mass of boomers and other late(st) adopters, but it was still huge by any measure - 100 million users, and growing with unprecedented speed. People were absolutely a…

The matter at hand is collecting user pictures for mass scale machine learning. I and everyone I know didn’t even join FB until 2011-12. 100m is nothing compared to the current 2.2B user base who is posting annotated 10 year old pictures of themselves. This is to counter the parent comment that “they already have this data anyway”, not an absolute statement on FB growth.

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Post by Setepenre »

bigbugbag wrote: post #63
bbrian wrote: post #55

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> their dataset will have EXIF timestamps It used to be the case (still is?) that the dates on uploaded photos weren't applied to the photo album. I remember having to go through holiday snaps and change the date on each from the upload date to the actual date. The images were also resized down from what was uploaded. So, if they have the originals with the full EXIF data, I'd like to be able to use that for my old p…

Chances are they have and you won't be able to use them. Why would it be so ? Because it profits facebook which is the only reason facebook exists. It profits them to have original with EXIF for data mining and you gave them permission to do so while also giving them the data, and it profits them to not make them available to you to save on bandwidth and processing costs.

eh, I think not. There is a reason why they resize the photos. To save space. Even at facebook scale the amount of space they save by doing this must be enormous.

Additionally, images used in AI are usually scaled down a lot more, 224x224 for something like resnet50. which means that they do not need your high quality original and the smaller one they generated are fine.

Re: Facebook's '10 Year Challenge' Is Just a Harmless Meme–Right?

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Post by mrlala »

zmk_ wrote: post #50
matchagaucho wrote: post #41

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It seems, at least, Microsoft is way beyond needing a 10-year challenge training dataset. Their "how old" facial analysis app has been around a few years and is remarkably accurate. https://www.how-old.net/

It is actually not. I've been labelled anything between 22 and 65. It is not only wrong, but also not accurate about it (large variance).

Maybe you are the outlier.
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