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Re: Proper Breathing Brings Better Health

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Post by quotz »

theprotocol wrote: post #86
quotz wrote: post #84

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Same thing with me! After going to ENTs for 5 years they all told me “nasal steroid sprays, antihistamines, nasal deviation”. The nasal steroids sprays and antihistamines never worked, so I thought surgery is the only option. I did an MRI of my brain for another reason, and there I go with the scan to the ENT, turns out I have huge turbinate swelling and no nasal deviation. I need to try more meds now before going in…

You might be interested in somnoplasty, it seems less invasive than traditional surgery, although I have yet to complete my research on it. It's usually done for soft palate reduction in order to remedy some forms of sleep apnea, but it can also be used for turbinate reduction. Somnoplasty uses radiofrequency to reshape soft tissues. I've had an ENT surgeon explain some of the normal/traditional surgical methods of d…

Let us know how your situation works out

Re: Proper Breathing Brings Better Health

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Post by bogle »

Playing the didjeridu, particularly with circular breathing, is great fun for learning some good breath control. I'm sure other wind instruments may have similar benefits (caveat: IANAM - I am not a musician).

Re: Proper Breathing Brings Better Health

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Post by vidarh »

Zarath wrote: post #3
viburnum wrote: post #2

Standing up straight isn't as easy as it sounds. For a lot of desk workers you're going to have to fix your tight hamstrings, abnormal pelvic tilt, and weak abdominal muscles before it will be possible to stand up straight.

Sort of anecdotal, but as soon as I started deadlifting I noticed an immediate improvement in standing posture.

If you have enough flexibility to be able to do deadlifts or squats properly, then sure, it helps further.

For my part it took months and hurting my back (thankfully not seriously) before I realized my entire posterior chain was basically too tight for me to be able to keep my back firm enough to do especially squats, but deadlifts too to a certain extent, safely at all but the very lightest weights.

Deadlifts and squats with low weight are good ways of seeing if you have sufficient flexibility, though. If you can't do them with good form even at low weights, then it's definitively a sign you need to do more stretches.

Re: Proper Breathing Brings Better Health

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Post by vidarh »

samatman wrote: post #15
acangiano wrote: post #13

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It makes perfect sense, but it's worth noting that there are plenty of safer exercises for beginners that will improve core and posterior chain. Think glutes bridges, dead bugs, planks, Pallof press, etc. Some people jump straight to the big compounding lifts (because they are amazing for building strength) with no guidance from a trainer or much care for their form. You deadlift or squat heavy wrong and it's extreme…

This is FUD, basically. Yes, don’t start squatting and deadlifting without learning how to do it properly. Yes, start light, you only have one spine and two knees. No, it is not “extremely easy” to injure yourself if you show a modicum of good sense and avoid max lifting. I agree with GP that squats and deadlifts will improve posture in a relatively short period of time. They are among the best exercises, period, for…

It's not fud. I hurt my back several times because I didn't realise I didn't have sufficient flexibility to do these lifts safely. Now years later, hardly a week goes by that I don't see people doing these lifts badly.

Your answer is a bit like the old joke: "Patient: doctor it hurts when I do this. Doctor: well, then don't do that".

The reality is that while these are great exercises, they are exercises that are easy to do badly, and that lot of people do badly without anyone ever pointing it out to them, because they think they know them and don't ask for help, and often people don't realize what the warning signs are.

To point out that there are risks with these exercises is sensible, and not FUD, because you can seriously harm both your back and your knees with them if you don't make sure you learn them properly, and a lot of people start out with insufficient flexibility to be able to do them properly.

I've done heavy compound lifts for 15+ years now, and my knees and back are stronger than they ever were before I lifted, but I also did manage to hurt my back when I first started, because I thought I'd learned how to do it properly but hadn't, and nobody corrected me, and I lacked the flexibility to even have a chance of doing them correctly. Thankfully I didn't hurt myself seriously, and took the opportunity to actually sort out the problems, but not everyone gets that lucky.

Re: Proper Breathing Brings Better Health

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Post by miqkt »

brightball wrote: post #19

I had a nasal problem that I didn’t know about until I tried breath right strips. Wearing those things was life changing for me. I felt like a different person and honestly can’t believe I spent my entire life not realizing I had a problem. Eventually got it fixed permanently, but yea...breathing is huge. EDIT: The problem I had was called Nasal Valve Collapse. It’s something that happens in much older people, but es…

Thanks for sharing.

I've gone through not one but two turbinate reduction surgeries myself. One when I was young and another several years ago. Alas, my quality of breathing now is still pretty abysmal. It's just gotten to the point where I've come to accept having to breathe through just one nostril all the time, as much as a nuisance it is. Frustrating to have spent all that energy and funds to land back at square one.

Also went and tried CPAP for a while, which didn't really help me with breathing for restful sleep.

Where I notice this most is probably during heavy exercise. Having to breathe through the mouth during intense aerobic exercise makes me hit my limit much faster.

Re: Proper Breathing Brings Better Health

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

riku_iki wrote: post #69
brightball wrote: post #19

I had a nasal problem that I didn’t know about until I tried breath right strips. Wearing those things was life changing for me. I felt like a different person and honestly can’t believe I spent my entire life not realizing I had a problem. Eventually got it fixed permanently, but yea...breathing is huge. EDIT: The problem I had was called Nasal Valve Collapse. It’s something that happens in much older people, but es…

I am curious why it is so important to breath through nose during aerobic exercises? I succeeded very well in different high intensive kinds of sport like boxing and sprint running, and always breathed using mouth..

The general technique is to inhale through the nose, exhale through the mouth; if you breathe through the mouth, you'll breathe in a lot of unfiltered, cold / dry air, which you'll end up feeling in your windpipe all the way down to your lungs. The nose filters and pre-warms the air you breathe in.

Re: Proper Breathing Brings Better Health

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

vidarh wrote: post #93
Zarath wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sort of anecdotal, but as soon as I started deadlifting I noticed an immediate improvement in standing posture.

If you have enough flexibility to be able to do deadlifts or squats properly, then sure, it helps further. For my part it took months and hurting my back (thankfully not seriously) before I realized my entire posterior chain was basically too tight for me to be able to keep my back firm enough to do especially squats, but deadlifts too to a certain extent, safely at all but the very lightest weights. Deadlifts and sq…

Flexibility really is a thing; I never knew ankle mobility was my main issue until a personal trainer pointed it out and made me do some exercises to help out with that. Knowing it now and knowing what should be possible, I almost feel like reduced ankle mobility is a disability. It can be improved with exercises and training, but it's something that needs focus.

Re: Proper Breathing Brings Better Health

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Post by kaybe »

graeme wrote: post #35
brightball wrote: post #19

I had a nasal problem that I didn’t know about until I tried breath right strips. Wearing those things was life changing for me. I felt like a different person and honestly can’t believe I spent my entire life not realizing I had a problem. Eventually got it fixed permanently, but yea...breathing is huge. EDIT: The problem I had was called Nasal Valve Collapse. It’s something that happens in much older people, but es…

It's normal for the nostrils to suck in somewhat when inhaling....right? If not maybe I should see an ENT or try those strips. I do find myself yawning a lot, when it feels like I haven't had enough air. However, I've never had any trouble sprinting or doing athletic activity.

So I just tested it and find that I use the muscles of the nose to keep it open - so this doesn't happen. If I don't they do suck in and breathing is harder. It's also possible to open them more than normal for even better breathing.

Re: Proper Breathing Brings Better Health

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Post by rgoodwintx »

miqkt wrote: post #95
brightball wrote: post #19

I had a nasal problem that I didn’t know about until I tried breath right strips. Wearing those things was life changing for me. I felt like a different person and honestly can’t believe I spent my entire life not realizing I had a problem. Eventually got it fixed permanently, but yea...breathing is huge. EDIT: The problem I had was called Nasal Valve Collapse. It’s something that happens in much older people, but es…

Thanks for sharing. I've gone through not one but two turbinate reduction surgeries myself. One when I was young and another several years ago. Alas, my quality of breathing now is still pretty abysmal. It's just gotten to the point where I've come to accept having to breathe through just one nostril all the time, as much as a nuisance it is. Frustrating to have spent all that energy and funds to land back at square…

I've had two turbinate reductions, a UPPP, and balloon sinuplasty, and I still don't feel right about my nasal breathing. Dr's have pretty much given up at this point.

The strips eventually ruin my skin, or don't stick through the night (they come off and eventually stick to my foot, or my cats...). So I finally turned to "nose cones". The ones on Amazon and the local pharmacies are barely passable, so I did the unthinkable in this day and age and ordered some "Max Air Nose Cones" directly from the manufacturer. Don't want to seem a link shill, so Google/Duck, or just find it as the domain name is the product name. I use the Max Air for exercise (clear) and the Sinus (beige, a bit more stiff) for sleep.

Still not a perfect solution, but cheaper, reusable (still on first set), and less skin irritation than other solutions.

Re: Proper Breathing Brings Better Health

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Post by ramblerman »

nprateem wrote: post #64
sn41 wrote: post #56

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I tried Pranayama for some time, but found it to be very complicated to follow for 20 minutes at a stretch. In contrast, the Wim Hof method was very easy to follow. The feeling of increased energy, and the absence of nasal congestion for a certain period afterwards, was instant. Wim Hof also claims long-term benefits. The only drawback I felt was a kind of nervous energy which made it slightly harder to focus on a lo…

> The only drawback I felt was a kind of nervous energy which made it slightly harder to focus on a long piece of text etc., similar to having too much coffee in one go. Circulate it through the Microcosmic Orbit to balance it. You're driving too much energy up to your head. You need to bring it back down.

> Circulate it through the Microcosmic Orbit to balance it

I beg your pardon?

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