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Paris Will Make Public Transportation Free for Kids

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Re: Paris Will Make Public Transportation Free for Kids

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previous studies done showed that making it free did not result in significant uptick in usage[1]. It really comes down to, does it go where you want from where you want when you want and all this on a timely basis. Hence the big reason buses always win over rail as they can adapt to changing needs. [1] https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/01/why-can...

> A 2002 report released by the National Center for Transportation Research indicated that the lack of fares attracted hordes of young people, who brought with them a culture of vandalism, graffiti, and bad behavior—which all necessitated costly maintenance Interesting. So making it free actually increased costs.

The wording here, "hordes" of young people is pretty telling of the bias of the writer. Young people are one of the most important target audiences of public transportation, since they aren't able to drive.

Re: Paris Will Make Public Transportation Free for Kids

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Why not make it just free for everybody? Public transportation typically has profit margins of -50% to -90% anyway... just take it to -100% and get a huge boost in ridership! (And probably save some expenses relating to collecting payment/enforcement.)

In Melbourne, Australia, Trams are free for everyone within the CBD district

Re: Paris Will Make Public Transportation Free for Kids

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Sounds like a good idea. Transport for London already does this.

In France, Lille did make it free for all. This is probably helpful to reduce car needs.

Are you sure about public transportation being free in Lille? (I've been there often and I've never heard of that.)

Re: Paris Will Make Public Transportation Free for Kids

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Why not make it just free for everybody? Public transportation typically has profit margins of -50% to -90% anyway... just take it to -100% and get a huge boost in ridership! (And probably save some expenses relating to collecting payment/enforcement.)

completely free means you have one less legal reason to kick out the bad kind of homeless.

Re: Paris Will Make Public Transportation Free for Kids

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> A 2002 report released by the National Center for Transportation Research indicated that the lack of fares attracted hordes of young people, who brought with them a culture of vandalism, graffiti, and bad behavior—which all necessitated costly maintenance Interesting. So making it free actually increased costs.

The wording here, "hordes" of young people is pretty telling of the bias of the writer. Young people are one of the most important target audiences of public transportation, since they aren't able to drive.

When it is for free, then more of them don't earn more money.

Re: Paris Will Make Public Transportation Free for Kids

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In France, Lille did make it free for all. This is probably helpful to reduce car needs.

Are you sure about public transportation being free in Lille? (I've been there often and I've never heard of that.)

I'm not entirely sure.. my memories are fuzzy.
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