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Facebook's '10 Year Challenge' Is Just a Harmless Meme–Right?

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Re: Facebook's '10 Year Challenge' Is Just a Harmless Meme–Right?

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Facebook already has access to a larger repository of photos going back over a decade and all the years inbetween along with decent face recognition to create a much bigger dataset than resorting to a hashtag challenge. But I guess that wouldn't be newsworthy.

did you read the article? thats even addressed

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post #55

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It tries and fails to address it. I could barely count the number of zeros I would have to put in front of the 1 in the percentage of Facebook's photo data this meme covers. And a good portion of their dataset will have EXIF timestamps. Training an algorithm on the meme only would be insane waste of their data set.

> their dataset will have EXIF timestamps It used to be the case (still is?) that the dates on uploaded photos weren't applied to the photo album. I remember having to go through holiday snaps and change the date on each from the upload date to the actual date. The images were also resized down from what was uploaded. So, if they have the originals with the full EXIF data, I'd like to be able to use that for my old p…

Chances are they have and you won't be able to use them.

Why would it be so ? Because it profits facebook which is the only reason facebook exists. It profits them to have original with EXIF for data mining and you gave them permission to do so while also giving them the data, and it profits them to not make them available to you to save on bandwidth and processing costs.

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As has been pointed out, people identifying themselves makes it easier to figure out which 10-year-old and current photos are actually: * themselves * 10 years old

And of course no one would lie about it!

That too is data. Those outliers just get sent to the not-to-be-trusted watch list.

Re: Facebook's '10 Year Challenge' Is Just a Harmless Meme–Right?

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post #43

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Facebook already has access to a larger repository of photos going back over a decade and all the years inbetween along with decent face recognition to create a much bigger dataset than resorting to a hashtag challenge. But I guess that wouldn't be newsworthy. This was addressed in the article: In various versions of the meme, people were instructed to post their first profile picture alongside their current profile…

Lots of people have said this, but Facebook has upload directly from phones to their server, right? So I would be shocked if they aren't trusting the time tags from direct uploads and metadata set by the camera (which they strip before displaying, but surely they ingest it) more than they trust upload times. Also, people tag themselves all the time, and if you upload a photo with people, you can tell quickly that the…

Seems you're missing one thing here, rewind 10 years back and the iphone 3G got released at the end of that year so not many people were using phones to take pictures and even less uploading them as their data plan did not allow when coverage allowed to do so.

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"My flippant tweet began to pick up traction. My intent wasn't to claim that the meme is inherently dangerous." He spun an offhand comment into full-on opinion manipulation, because we're now reading his article on the topic that not only has a clickbait headline, it seems to imply there's something more to the story, when in fact there isn't. So now we've got all this digital ink spilled on the (entirely hypothetica…

The issue with internet nowadays to be honest. As soon as you got a bit of traction with a tweet or with a blog post people try to milk it in order to market themselves or other narcissistic interests.

It's not the internet. It's media in general. They need to create an artificial story to make a profit. Now that the internet is a profit making center, the media and its tactic has found a welcome home in the internet.

Hence the "arctic blast" about to "ravage the east coast". Or as someone who has lived in the northeast, just winter. Or any other superlative clickbait. Everything is a crisis, everything is a disaster.

Re: Facebook's '10 Year Challenge' Is Just a Harmless Meme–Right?

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post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lots of people have said this, but Facebook has upload directly from phones to their server, right? So I would be shocked if they aren't trusting the time tags from direct uploads and metadata set by the camera (which they strip before displaying, but surely they ingest it) more than they trust upload times. Also, people tag themselves all the time, and if you upload a photo with people, you can tell quickly that the…

Seems you're missing one thing here, rewind 10 years back and the iphone 3G got released at the end of that year so not many people were using phones to take pictures and even less uploading them as their data plan did not allow when coverage allowed to do so.

You're really reaching now. People were regularly using phone cameras long before smartphones. By the time smartphones were a few gens in it was ultra common, and a big benefit of them (that even non-technical people could understand) was that you could use wifi whenever possible and avoid data charges (which really weren't much higher then than now in most markets; "unlimited" plans were more common too). Also the 3g has a 2mp camera, so we're talking about pictures that are 2-3MB at most. The suggestion that people were shy about uploading relatively small photos to Facebook circa ~2008, and that this supports this flimsy story in any way, is sheer nonsense. I'm no fan of Facebook - am a long-term outright refusenik actually - but the conspiracy theories are getting out of hand. There is zero substance to this article, it's wildly speculative clickbait.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems you're missing one thing here, rewind 10 years back and the iphone 3G got released at the end of that year so not many people were using phones to take pictures and even less uploading them as their data plan did not allow when coverage allowed to do so.

You're really reaching now. People were regularly using phone cameras long before smartphones. By the time smartphones were a few gens in it was ultra common, and a big benefit of them (that even non-technical people could understand) was that you could use wifi whenever possible and avoid data charges (which really weren't much higher then than now in most markets; "unlimited" plans were more common too). Also the 3…

In 2008 Facebook itself was in its infancy. Orkut was still the largest social network, only toppled around 2011. The majority of the world was definitely not uploading any phone pictures anywhere.

Re: Facebook's '10 Year Challenge' Is Just a Harmless Meme–Right?

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This is idle speculation from somebody who has no idea what they're talking about. Because it was published on Wired it has gone viral.

It's just technical enough that most people who don't have a clue think that it might be right so they spread it.

Anyone who knows about data processing, programming, or AI knows that it's a very stupid idea due to easy-to-implement fault tolerance (such as random dropout) in machine learning models.

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