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Facebook's '10 Year Challenge' Is Just a Harmless Meme–Right?

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Re: Facebook's '10 Year Challenge' Is Just a Harmless Meme–Right?

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Facebook already has access to a larger repository of photos going back over a decade and all the years inbetween along with decent face recognition to create a much bigger dataset than resorting to a hashtag challenge. But I guess that wouldn't be newsworthy.

It seems, at least, Microsoft is way beyond needing a 10-year challenge training dataset.

Their "how old" facial analysis app has been around a few years and is remarkably accurate.

https://www.how-old.net/

Re: Facebook's '10 Year Challenge' Is Just a Harmless Meme–Right?

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post #8

Facebook already has access to a larger repository of photos going back over a decade and all the years inbetween along with decent face recognition to create a much bigger dataset than resorting to a hashtag challenge. But I guess that wouldn't be newsworthy.

Facebook already has access to a larger repository of photos going back over a decade and all the years inbetween along with decent face recognition to create a much bigger dataset than resorting to a hashtag challenge. But I guess that wouldn't be newsworthy. This was addressed in the article: In various versions of the meme, people were instructed to post their first profile picture alongside their current profile…

It tries and fails to address it. I could barely count the number of zeros I would have to put in front of the 1 in the percentage of Facebook's photo data this meme covers. And a good portion of their dataset will have EXIF timestamps. Training an algorithm on the meme only would be insane waste of their data set.

Re: Facebook's '10 Year Challenge' Is Just a Harmless Meme–Right?

#43
post #8

Facebook already has access to a larger repository of photos going back over a decade and all the years inbetween along with decent face recognition to create a much bigger dataset than resorting to a hashtag challenge. But I guess that wouldn't be newsworthy.

Facebook already has access to a larger repository of photos going back over a decade and all the years inbetween along with decent face recognition to create a much bigger dataset than resorting to a hashtag challenge. But I guess that wouldn't be newsworthy. This was addressed in the article: In various versions of the meme, people were instructed to post their first profile picture alongside their current profile…

Lots of people have said this, but Facebook has upload directly from phones to their server, right? So I would be shocked if they aren't trusting the time tags from direct uploads and metadata set by the camera (which they strip before displaying, but surely they ingest it) more than they trust upload times.

Also, people tag themselves all the time, and if you upload a photo with people, you can tell quickly that they already identify people with high accuracy, because they suggest tags for you.

Re: Facebook's '10 Year Challenge' Is Just a Harmless Meme–Right?

#44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As has been pointed out, people identifying themselves makes it easier to figure out which 10-year-old and current photos are actually: * themselves * 10 years old

And of course no one would lie about it!

The percentage of people lying about it, at least before the stage where people start piling on with jokes, is probably much lower than the general noise in the data set if you were to try to find the photos you want without help.

Re: Facebook's '10 Year Challenge' Is Just a Harmless Meme–Right?

#45
This is saying a lot about what people think of Facebook these days. I don’t believe that FB wants to gather data here. This is probably an idea coming from their marketing department. But hey, why would you not think they’re evil after everything they’ve done?

Re: Facebook's '10 Year Challenge' Is Just a Harmless Meme–Right?

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https://globalnews.ca/news/4855500/facebook-10-year-challeng... https://twitter.com/facebook/status/1085675097766031360?ref_... and rebuttal. I know that Facebook's actions mean that it no longer deserves the benefit of the doubt but this seems like a non story that someone really wants to be a story. Thinking about it lest say 10,000 people respond, is that even enough data to move the needle? Which photo do you use…

Cleanup is standard work for any dataset. With enough money and a pile of Indians working for cheap hourly rates you can clean through A LOT of data. 10,000? Try a million!

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Re: Facebook's '10 Year Challenge' Is Just a Harmless Meme–Right?

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is assuming it's Facebook training the algorithm

Facebook denies involvement. But Facebook is no longer worthy of blind trust.

This is a circular argument.

Re: Facebook's '10 Year Challenge' Is Just a Harmless Meme–Right?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cleanup is standard work for any dataset. With enough money and a pile of Indians working for cheap hourly rates you can clean through A LOT of data. 10,000? Try a million!

Why do they need to be Indian? Sure the data would reflect that a plurality of global low wage workers are from India, but there are also plenty of low wage workers who are not ethnically Indian or geographically based in India (such as all of the Americans working on r/beermoney).

Because it is assumed that the lowest white collar wages are in India.

Re: Facebook's '10 Year Challenge' Is Just a Harmless Meme–Right?

#49
Facebook and Google's facial recognition software is so advanced that they have no real use for photos of people explicitly tagged 10 years apart.

Google Photos has been able to track my goddaughter from literally her first photo (when she looked like an alien) to now (5 years later), with about 2 photos per year.

The subtle point here is that people have became so suspicious of these platforms that everything they do is observed with a sharper eye on privacy, speaking of which... I wonder how Portal is doing?

Re: Facebook's '10 Year Challenge' Is Just a Harmless Meme–Right?

#50
post #8

Facebook already has access to a larger repository of photos going back over a decade and all the years inbetween along with decent face recognition to create a much bigger dataset than resorting to a hashtag challenge. But I guess that wouldn't be newsworthy.

It seems, at least, Microsoft is way beyond needing a 10-year challenge training dataset. Their "how old" facial analysis app has been around a few years and is remarkably accurate. https://www.how-old.net/

It is actually not. I've been labelled anything between 22 and 65. It is not only wrong, but also not accurate about it (large variance).
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