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My Parents Are Flat Earthers

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Re: My Parents Are Flat Earthers

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Post by tntn »

eesmith wrote: post #97
jogundas wrote: post #79

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I would say that putting climate change and flat Earth into the same category is not totally fair. While the geometry of the Earth has been pretty clear for millennia and the local CO2 level can be accurately measured, many more subtle questions on climate change still don't have clear cut answers.

If you want to make that argument, then be aware that many more subtle questions on the Earth's geometry still don't have clear cut answers. That is, as "geometry" becomes more and more refined, there are questions of why the the continents are they way they are (Wegener's theory wasn't rejected until the 1900s!), why certain volcanoes exist where they are, why certain rock formations exist where they are, etc. That'…

There are no subtle questions about whether or not the earth is flat. Continental drift and geology are very much irrelevant.

Re: My Parents Are Flat Earthers

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Post by walrus01 »

mabbo wrote: post #33

I feel like the Flat Earth movement is, at it's core, a hack on the human mind. People want to feel important, and they want to feel in control. When the world is so large and uncaring, so horrible and meaningless, and people are so small and unimportant, a good conspiracy theory lets me be someone important . There are evil people out there who did this all to us, and now I get to know the truth . I get to be in bet…

Feeling like you're the part of an elite group of people who have "discovered" the truth of a conspiracy theory makes people feel important and inflates their sense of self worth. Whether it's moon landing hoax, flat Earth, anti vaccines, whatever.

Re: My Parents Are Flat Earthers

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Post by paradoxparalax »

quakeguy wrote: post #127
paradoxparalax wrote: post #123

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Those fairy tales, I would bet that , if let's say for example Jesus, existed in reality as a person(not clear) He maybe didn't speak any of those fairy tales. They are inventions made by distorting and contorting what was originnaly said by the Thinker, most probably with malicious intentions. Now there I am not clear, but in the case of Buddha, when he walked on earth(most probably true, if not already proven) I am…

Found her. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandra_David-Néel

Wow! I don't know how to start to thank you for this, I am as happy as a child : D sincerely, honestly, Thank you.

Whooa, I see she was born in 1868, and thought: How? I really had the perception that she was a contemporary of our lifetime...then I saw she died in 1969! 100 years, and I see that her life was more crazy and amazing that I thought.

I thought she was an academic researcher at some uni. She was an opera singer!, among other things, and published an Anarchist treatise at age 22 or so! and a feminist one at age 20 or so. I knew she was smart.

Cannot believe she was there in Wikipedia all the time. My world is demolished, with any google-fu confidence I had left going crumbs and dust...This is shocking. But is always good a reality shock to bring feet back to the humility shoes. Thank you quake guy.

Everytime I re-read "100 years of solitude", Its a completely different book. I can't "see" things I remember "seeing" before, I see things I didn't saw before... It is always in a different language, and Gabriel G. Marquez himself said that a good translation is another book, but this is probably because I get old, and not because of the translation. It is going to be so fun, can't believe I will re-read her books again after 27 or 28 years! it is going to be so much fun.

Now, the tiring thing of it, is that I will have another pretty girl Idol to research every bit of her Life(sigh) Oh no! Zhao, the Brightness and the Light[1], was enough for a lifetime of research and her long-term thinking understanding and learning. I need more lifetimes.

1- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wu_Zetian

Re: My Parents Are Flat Earthers

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Post by quakeguy »

paradoxparalax wrote: post #144
quakeguy wrote: post #127

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Found her. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandra_David-Néel

Wow! I don't know how to start to thank you for this, I am as happy as a child : D sincerely, honestly, Thank you. Whooa, I see she was born in 1868, and thought: How? I really had the perception that she was a contemporary of our lifetime...then I saw she died in 1969! 100 years, and I see that her life was more crazy and amazing that I thought. I thought she was an academic researcher at some uni. She was an opera…

Glad i Could make you happy, you‘re welcome. :)

Edit: And her bio is really stunning, i must admit.

Re: My Parents Are Flat Earthers

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Post by rayiner »

mabbo wrote: post #33

I feel like the Flat Earth movement is, at it's core, a hack on the human mind. People want to feel important, and they want to feel in control. When the world is so large and uncaring, so horrible and meaningless, and people are so small and unimportant, a good conspiracy theory lets me be someone important . There are evil people out there who did this all to us, and now I get to know the truth . I get to be in bet…

This is a great explanation for anti-vaxxers as well.

Re: My Parents Are Flat Earthers

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Post by fileeditview »

Y_Y wrote: post #122
medion wrote: post #59

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Would it be fair to say the exact same thing about, say, Christianity, or any large scale religion? That, at it's core, it's a hack on the human mind, for people to feel important, to feel in control, when the world is so large and uncaring? Because to me, this burgeoning conspiracy culture (chemtrails, 5G, flat earth, etc etc) just feels like people utilising the same brain space that was once more used for religion…

If anyone is interested in this, I strongly recommend Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson, although I'm sure pretty much all geeks over a certain age have already read it. Religion, memetics, hackers, and the human mind are all tied up in a really good sci-fi book.

And after you have read it try The Diamond Age by the same author. I never know which of both books fascinated me more.

Re: My Parents Are Flat Earthers

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Post by ykevinator »

squirrelicus wrote: post #103
medion wrote: post #59

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Would it be fair to say the exact same thing about, say, Christianity, or any large scale religion? That, at it's core, it's a hack on the human mind, for people to feel important, to feel in control, when the world is so large and uncaring? Because to me, this burgeoning conspiracy culture (chemtrails, 5G, flat earth, etc etc) just feels like people utilising the same brain space that was once more used for religion…

I think the same brain space is used by futurists too. Magic batteries, dehumidifiers, a/c units, rockets, tunnels, Mars colonization, integrated neutral/digital systems. People want to feel like they are a part of a new age of knowledge set apart from the intellectually content masses, and feel like they're more honest in breaking free from the doctrine handed down by elites. And no. It's not fair to say that about…

It's the same. There is no logical difference between believing in flat earth and believing in spermless conception
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