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Apple resumes selling iPhone SE at lower $249 price on its clearance store

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Re: Apple resumes selling iPhone SE at lower $249 price on its clearance store

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Post by rythie »

lsc wrote: post #182
lostlogin wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not only is this something I’d love, it’s also a comment that gets a lot of upvotes on Hackers News every time it’s made. Do HN readers have an unusual like for ‘small’ phones or is it just an unserved market?

My theory is that big phones are best for single device users. Most of my social circle has a computer at home and at work, and they often carry a laptop or tablet. The phone, in that case, really is a mobile device, and especially if you are carrying around a bunch of other crap, a small phone is awful nice. My theory is that big phones dominate because a lot of people don't have reliable/maintained computers other…

I totally agree with this and on top, for me personally, I don’t care about the obsession with better cameras in these phones (now multiple modules adding to the cost). I always carry at least a compact camera (RX100m3), and often a full frame mirrorless camera.

Re: Apple resumes selling iPhone SE at lower $249 price on its clearance store

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Post by simonh »

d--b wrote: post #243
whitepoplar wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like small phones because I feel that they're a better tradeoff between form + functionality. I want a premium phone, and I'm willing to pay a lot for it, but I also want to spend as little time on my phone as possible. A smaller screen gives me all the benefit while being easy to carry and handle, and the small screen keeps me from using it too much. I also happen to think small screens feel more elegant. The prom…

Totally agree. HNers do understand the tradeoffs better. It's like when they started making laptop screen reflective. All my non-tech relatives were saying: "wow that screen is super nice" while I was thinking: "holy crap, the matte screen is disappearing, how I am going to work?"

For me it’s the aspect ratio. 3:2 is ideal, so kudos to Google and MS, but 16:10 on the MacBooks is still significantly better than the mass of 16:9ers out there.

Recently got a 14” Zenbook for my daughter. Lovely machine honestly, but the screen ratio is annoying.

Re: Apple resumes selling iPhone SE at lower $249 price on its clearance store

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Post by simonh »

lsc wrote: post #182
lostlogin wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not only is this something I’d love, it’s also a comment that gets a lot of upvotes on Hackers News every time it’s made. Do HN readers have an unusual like for ‘small’ phones or is it just an unserved market?

My theory is that big phones are best for single device users. Most of my social circle has a computer at home and at work, and they often carry a laptop or tablet. The phone, in that case, really is a mobile device, and especially if you are carrying around a bunch of other crap, a small phone is awful nice. My theory is that big phones dominate because a lot of people don't have reliable/maintained computers other…

For me it’s age and hand size. The SE is great, both my daughters have one and love them, but I find them hard to read text on these days and too fiddly for my fingers (though my hands aren’t exactly huge).

I had a 6+ for a while and got on with it fine but it’s a bit big. My 6s is just right. It is a little big for reaching on screen controls sometimes, but I’d hate to lose the readability so it’s a trade off.

Re: Apple resumes selling iPhone SE at lower $249 price on its clearance store

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Post by ksec »

dmortin wrote: post #230
vinay_ys wrote: post #222

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It's because everyone here has a bigger screen (laptop) and hence wants a smaller screen phone. For vast majority of the world, phone is the only screen they own. And hence they want bigger screen.

I doubt the majority of people have only a phone. Unless it's a poor 3rd world country, most people have some kind of computer at home, or at least a tablet. There's a difference between having a mobile device with you in the city and using a device comfortable at home where most people prefer a bigger screen.

>I doubt the majority of people have only a phone.

Well only in the context of US, EU, Canada, AUS, and the like. Or if you consider China, India to be a poor 3rd world country.

There are more people using their Smartphone as their only computer devices in China / SEA than the whole of US and EU population combined. There are elderly who never had a computer in their life are now using Smartphone as their first "computer". You will be surprised how many people can't double click a mouse, and moving mouse cursor around is a daunting task. And how using iPhone is 10x more intuitive.

Re: Apple resumes selling iPhone SE at lower $249 price on its clearance store

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Post by ForHackernews »

whitepoplar wrote: post #81
lostlogin wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not only is this something I’d love, it’s also a comment that gets a lot of upvotes on Hackers News every time it’s made. Do HN readers have an unusual like for ‘small’ phones or is it just an unserved market?

I like small phones because I feel that they're a better tradeoff between form + functionality. I want a premium phone, and I'm willing to pay a lot for it, but I also want to spend as little time on my phone as possible. A smaller screen gives me all the benefit while being easy to carry and handle, and the small screen keeps me from using it too much. I also happen to think small screens feel more elegant. The prom…

I got this one: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jellyphone/atom-world-s...

It is not "elegant" by any stretch of the imagination, but it is extremely small. Like you, I want something that is very small in my pocket and not distracting me from real life.

Re: Apple resumes selling iPhone SE at lower $249 price on its clearance store

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Post by ForHackernews »

brohoolio wrote: post #154
stanmancan wrote: post #71

The only thing that could get me to upgrade from my iPhone 7 would be a premium version of the iPhone SE. I want a smaller phone, not a bigger one, but I want updated specs and possibly an OLED screen.

My dream phone is a “military grade” SE. Slightly larger battery, rugged phone. I know it would be thicker, I’d be good with that.

You might like this tiny rugged phone: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jellyphone/atom-world-s...

I got it off the kickstarter, but I think you can buy it retail now.

Re: Apple resumes selling iPhone SE at lower $249 price on its clearance store

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Post by llampx »

nkristoffersen wrote: post #245
d--b wrote: post #243

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Totally agree. HNers do understand the tradeoffs better. It's like when they started making laptop screen reflective. All my non-tech relatives were saying: "wow that screen is super nice" while I was thinking: "holy crap, the matte screen is disappearing, how I am going to work?"

Although I would argue you should not want the matte screen. They get washed out from ambient light and thus have poorer contrast than reflective screens that can reject ambient light (at proper angles).

Glossy screens can be great in the correct lighting. A few point sources of light that are not directly behind the viewer are great, and you can benefit from the increased contrast that foregoing the matte layer gets you.

However, in a situation where you have ambient light from everywhere, like an open office with many windows, glossy screens are insanely distracting. I much prefer the matte screens for that. Yes things on the screen can be harder to read, but way better compared to the "looking into a mirror" effect of a glossy screen.

Re: Apple resumes selling iPhone SE at lower $249 price on its clearance store

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Post by martin_a »

yitchelle wrote: post #65

Damn. Not available in Germany. I was going to grab two for my two kids. If Apple price them to below 100$ price point, it would kill the low to mid level phone market.

Was looking for that, too. Seems like they just removed the SE from the German store at all. Or did I look at the wrong place? :-D
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