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Apple resumes selling iPhone SE at lower $249 price on its clearance store

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Re: Apple resumes selling iPhone SE at lower $249 price on its clearance store

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Post by dmix »

clouddrover wrote: post #107
stanmancan wrote: post #71

The only thing that could get me to upgrade from my iPhone 7 would be a premium version of the iPhone SE. I want a smaller phone, not a bigger one, but I want updated specs and possibly an OLED screen.

> I want a smaller phone, not a bigger one I'd like a foldable or furlable phone that offers the best of both worlds. You'd use it folded or furled most of the time and unfold or unfurl it when you want a bigger screen. The current foldable phones seem to be a bit too thick when folded, but I've never seen one in person so that may be a false impression.

Why would you fold a phone without a keyboard? It will always be thicker which is a bigger problem IMO when putting it in your pocket than a long phone.

Re: Apple resumes selling iPhone SE at lower $249 price on its clearance store

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Post by leoh »

clouddrover wrote: post #107
stanmancan wrote: post #71

The only thing that could get me to upgrade from my iPhone 7 would be a premium version of the iPhone SE. I want a smaller phone, not a bigger one, but I want updated specs and possibly an OLED screen.

> I want a smaller phone, not a bigger one I'd like a foldable or furlable phone that offers the best of both worlds. You'd use it folded or furled most of the time and unfold or unfurl it when you want a bigger screen. The current foldable phones seem to be a bit too thick when folded, but I've never seen one in person so that may be a false impression.

I just want an upgraded SE, too; nothing fancy with folding

Re: Apple resumes selling iPhone SE at lower $249 price on its clearance store

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Post by scottmcf »

quicklime wrote: post #105
whitepoplar wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like small phones because I feel that they're a better tradeoff between form + functionality. I want a premium phone, and I'm willing to pay a lot for it, but I also want to spend as little time on my phone as possible. A smaller screen gives me all the benefit while being easy to carry and handle, and the small screen keeps me from using it too much. I also happen to think small screens feel more elegant. The prom…

When my iPhone 5S died on me a few months ago, I bought a large Android phone to replace it. I've tracked screen-on time and noticed it ramp right up - from something like 90 minutes a day to 2 or even 3 hours now. Most of the increase is due to the fact that it's easier to use in bed before I get up in the morning, as well as before I go to sleep. So I tend to waste more time than I used to, watching YouTube or mind…

Yeah, I moved from an SE to an 8+, then an XS Max. I love the new phones, but if they brought out a premium SE I'd swap to that in a second.

Re: Apple resumes selling iPhone SE at lower $249 price on its clearance store

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Post by midnightclubbed »

JBReefer wrote: post #7

Why does everyone love this phone so much? Clue me in?

I can carry it around in my pocket during the day, it fits in my shorts pocket when I run, does everything I want from a phone and doesn't feel 'cheap'.

Even with an otter-box it still fits in a pocket and can take a beating.

Re: Apple resumes selling iPhone SE at lower $249 price on its clearance store

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Post by tyfon »

donretag wrote: post #102
wodenokoto wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since no one here is rushing to get the small xperia phones I'm guessing it is one of those things people want, but at the same time is the first feature they are willing to give up. another case in point: parent only wants to change to smaller phone if all other specs are also improved.

Even the Xperia compact phones are now pretty big. The previous Xperia X compact is now sold out in most reputable stores. I would love a small phone.

It is still somewhat big but it is small enough that my wife has stopped complaining that the phone doesn't fit in her hands.

But afaik it is the only phone out there with same specs as it's bigger brother. The phone is excellent too. I have the big one personally buy my hands are considerably larger than hers.

Re: Apple resumes selling iPhone SE at lower $249 price on its clearance store

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Post by clouddrover »

dmix wrote: post #111
clouddrover wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I want a smaller phone, not a bigger one I'd like a foldable or furlable phone that offers the best of both worlds. You'd use it folded or furled most of the time and unfold or unfurl it when you want a bigger screen. The current foldable phones seem to be a bit too thick when folded, but I've never seen one in person so that may be a false impression.

Why would you fold a phone without a keyboard? It will always be thicker which is a bigger problem IMO when putting it in your pocket than a long phone.

Because a foldable phone offers double the screen size when you want it. It just has to be made thin enough so it's not too thick when folded.

Re: Apple resumes selling iPhone SE at lower $249 price on its clearance store

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Post by JansjoFromIkea »

lostlogin wrote: post #77
stanmancan wrote: post #71

The only thing that could get me to upgrade from my iPhone 7 would be a premium version of the iPhone SE. I want a smaller phone, not a bigger one, but I want updated specs and possibly an OLED screen.

Not only is this something I’d love, it’s also a comment that gets a lot of upvotes on Hackers News every time it’s made. Do HN readers have an unusual like for ‘small’ phones or is it just an unserved market?

I think the issue is that, day-to-day, quite a lot of people would far prefer a smaller phone (especially if it also packs better battery life), but when it comes to buying a new phone, these just aren't very attractive selling options.

There's definitely a potential market for smaller phones, but someone's gotta figure out how to market them.

Re: Apple resumes selling iPhone SE at lower $249 price on its clearance store

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Post by huebnerob »

dklsafhjskljfl wrote: post #4

The upcoming sony xz4 compact may be the only small phone with premium components, and it's extremely frustrating. It's not even /that/ small. You can find small phones but they have terrible cameras, sub HD resolutions, and bargain basement SOCs. Is the demand for a premium (or even mid range) small phone really that low?

Small phone equals small battery, and when you have a reduced power budget there's some things you just can't do. Small phone also obviously equals small hardware components. To the extent that components occupy physical space on a logic board, there's going to need to be a trade-off there.

People say they 'just' want a 4" modern phone, but they define it as a phone with multiple cameras, high storage capacity, and fast processors, etc. etc.. It's a nontrivial engineering challenge to get everything into a smaller package, and this at a time where the market at large has picked bigger phones as the winner.

Also, don't forget that people generally expect something that's smaller to be cheaper. Reality is, it might actually cost more money to deliver a smaller product, and at that point you're swimming against people's assumptions, not a great place to be.

So, you sit down to design a small modern phone and BAM it's just nothing but obstacles in every direction. It doesn't surprise me that the conclusion manufacturers are making is that the only winning move is not to play.

I'm not saying it's the _right_ decision necessarily, maybe someone will make an excellent small phone in the near future and the whole world will flock to it. But nothing has pushed the industry in that direction yet.

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