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Apple resumes selling iPhone SE at lower $249 price on its clearance store
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Re: Apple resumes selling iPhone SE at lower $249 price on its clearance store
#52Why does everyone love this phone so much? Clue me in?
I liked the size. The only thing I want is for them to extend the display to be close to or totally without bezel. I’ll probably pick this up to be my international travel/backup phone (now that Google Fi officially supports iOS).
The specs are sadly dated but I’m still running an iPhone 7 and the SE isn’t that far behind hardware-wise. For my use cases (some productivity software, maps, music, and chat) I have zero need for newer hardware any time soon. I have a full fledged computer if I really need something fast. And the 128GB option is only $50 more which isn’t bad.
Also, I like the audio jack. I do miss that on my 7 (and, consequently, newer devices).
Finally, there may be size wise comparable android phones but I’m not in that ecosystem. I’ve tried (using a couple Nexus devices for a year each in the past). There are too many things I like better in iOS or apps that didn’t have a direct port and whose equivalent wasn’t really equal.
Re: Apple resumes selling iPhone SE at lower $249 price on its clearance store
#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
All of them are a full inch larger in screen and most even larger in bezel.
Some people will never be pleased. When Lenovo came out with that throwback laptop the HN thread was full of curmudgeons nitpicking every little detail they thought was wrong about the retro laptop they always said they wanted Lenovo to make. The same thing would happen if somebody made a new small premium phone. Such people are impossible to please and there isn’t much point trying.
The main problem with that throwback laptop was the horrible battery life. 3 hours rated life might have been acceptable in the early 2000s, but nowadays, that's weak.
Combine that with the price ($1900 MSRP) and you have a device that comes off as a cynical, overpriced money-grab directed at the retro aesthetic crowd, especially considering that it's basically a slight upgrade of the T470.
It wasn't a bad machine. In fact, it got above-average reviews. Still, something really burns about being so close to perfection and making unforced errors that keep them under the line.
Re: Apple resumes selling iPhone SE at lower $249 price on its clearance store
#54I guess it's time for all those HN people who were moaning about iPhones being too big/expensive/lacking in home buttons/etc... to put their money where their mouths are. It's a 2016 model, so it should remain supported until at least 2021. Not far off, but still better than some (many?) Android phones. I'm not sure how $299/128GB compares to Android products, but it's cheaper than its previous $449 price. I'd pick o…
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Re: Apple resumes selling iPhone SE at lower $249 price on its clearance store
#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
$250/32 is barely competitive. however, you cannot buy an android phone this small that isn't complete garbage
I've been using SE for the past 2 years and it is perfect for its price and I have a plan to at least use it for another year too. Its fluid animation and acceptable performance make it way superior to most Android phones. I switched from Nexus 5 and I am not going to buy any Android phone until Google guarantees I am going to get OS+Security updates for at least 4 years.
The only security feature I really want is a preinstalled user-configurable firewall.
Keeps your system firewalled and your apps sandboxed and there's less of a need for constant OS patches.
But it's notable that even 'privacy first' Apple doesn't ship a firewall because that would interfere with the market for ad-supported apps.
Re: Apple resumes selling iPhone SE at lower $249 price on its clearance store
#56I guess it's time for all those HN people who were moaning about iPhones being too big/expensive/lacking in home buttons/etc... to put their money where their mouths are. It's a 2016 model, so it should remain supported until at least 2021. Not far off, but still better than some (many?) Android phones. I'm not sure how $299/128GB compares to Android products, but it's cheaper than its previous $449 price. I'd pick o…
I’m curious how your 5 “keeps chugging along” - even a year ago my 5s was sluggish (not to mention battery lasted half a day) and the responsiveness of an X in comparison was night and day
Re: Apple resumes selling iPhone SE at lower $249 price on its clearance store
#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, the demand really is that low. People who want a smaller phone in 2019 are a very small yet very vocal minority. If there was a large untapped market for smaller phones, then the limited number of small phones on the market would be selling a lot better than they actually are. Somebody would notice and start making more of them. Like phones with physical keyboards, phones with small screens have become a niche p…
> Yes, the demand really is that low. People who want a smaller phone in 2019 are a very small yet very vocal minority. What are you basing that on?
Manufacturers not making/pushing them is a pretty good sign they're not super popular.
Re: Apple resumes selling iPhone SE at lower $249 price on its clearance store
#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Yes, the demand really is that low. People who want a smaller phone in 2019 are a very small yet very vocal minority. What are you basing that on?
Manufacturers not making/pushing them is a pretty good sign they're not super popular.
That’s a sign, but there are confounders.
If I market a new device that’s larger and give it better specs how can the smaller device survive? Its only feature is its size but its specs are always behind and getting further behind. The consumers will drift from it as the spec disparity increases.
From a business standpoint it seems bigger is better, but it’s the better display/storage/battery/camera that’s driving the consumer not the size.
Re: Apple resumes selling iPhone SE at lower $249 price on its clearance store
#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, the demand really is that low. People who want a smaller phone in 2019 are a very small yet very vocal minority. If there was a large untapped market for smaller phones, then the limited number of small phones on the market would be selling a lot better than they actually are. Somebody would notice and start making more of them. Like phones with physical keyboards, phones with small screens have become a niche p…
Do you have any insight as to why? I'm part of that minority and small phones seem better in so many ways. My hands are relatively big I think, but even with "small" phones now I can barely use them with one hand. The smaller screen uses less battery. Larger phones don't fit in pockets very well and result in a spot that wears through on my jeans where the corner of the phone pokes out from my pocket. I'm really stru…
Larger phone also means you can fit a larger battery inside. In fact, in many cases the battery size/power consumption ratio can be improved.
Also people are spending a larger amount of their time on their phones watching video. A larger screen is an improved experience for watching video.
Re: Apple resumes selling iPhone SE at lower $249 price on its clearance store
#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've been using SE for the past 2 years and it is perfect for its price and I have a plan to at least use it for another year too. Its fluid animation and acceptable performance make it way superior to most Android phones. I switched from Nexus 5 and I am not going to buy any Android phone until Google guarantees I am going to get OS+Security updates for at least 4 years.
The only security feature I really want is a preinstalled user-configurable firewall. Keeps your system firewalled and your apps sandboxed and there's less of a need for constant OS patches. But it's notable that even 'privacy first' Apple doesn't ship a firewall because that would interfere with the market for ad-supported apps.
Configuring a firewall sounds like the opposite of the ease of use Apple wants to be associated with the App Store. Doubt that will ever be preinstalled.
I believe you could theoretically install one on iOS using the VPN functionality available... a quick google only finds “guardian mobile firewall” which is still in beta though.