Front End Development Topics to Learn in 2019

I feel like I need to install 86,000 dependencies via NPM to do something that server-side frameworks already figured out. I was following a simple Vue/Vuex tutorial the other day and my node_modules directory was 200MB+.

Use yarn or npm to install XYZ.... What's the difference? Why do I have to google this as step 0?

Why do you assume I know the intricacies of Webpack? Is this tutorial for Webpack 4 or Webpack 3?

I'm exaggerating a bit but honestly, I get the same feeling of rage that I used to get trying to understand the box model during the IE 6 era.

Re: Front End Development Topics to Learn in 2019

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Post by taesu » Sat, Jan 19, 2019, 10:33 PM UTC

juddlyon wrote: post #4

This is a solid list, but front end dev has gotten a bit absurd. I feel like I need to install 86,000 dependencies via NPM to do something that server-side frameworks already figured out. I was following a simple Vue/Vuex tutorial the other day and my node_modules directory was 200MB+. Use yarn or npm to install XYZ.... What's the difference? Why do I have to google this as step 0? Why do you assume I know the intric…

npm hell, I assume it's still a thing?

Re: Front End Development Topics to Learn in 2019

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Post by pojzon » Sat, Jan 19, 2019, 10:34 PM UTC

juddlyon wrote: post #4

This is a solid list, but front end dev has gotten a bit absurd. I feel like I need to install 86,000 dependencies via NPM to do something that server-side frameworks already figured out. I was following a simple Vue/Vuex tutorial the other day and my node_modules directory was 200MB+. Use yarn or npm to install XYZ.... What's the difference? Why do I have to google this as step 0? Why do you assume I know the intric…

I think currently front end development becomes a bit messy.

One could compare it to a wild west.

And most likely its caused by misusage of javascript. Typescript is now just a "lets learn less competent ppl how to write frontend", technologies change too fast and have too many holes. Young folks want to be recognized and jump from one bandwagon to another..

This whole mess could use some refined standarization enforced by browsers (like apple store process)

Ps. Sorry for bringing so many topics here but situation is that bad and i didnt even mention security..

Re: Front End Development Topics to Learn in 2019

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Post by juddlyon » Sat, Jan 19, 2019, 10:47 PM UTC

pojzon wrote: post #6

juddlyon wrote: post #4

This is a solid list, but front end dev has gotten a bit absurd. I feel like I need to install 86,000 dependencies via NPM to do something that server-side frameworks already figured out. I was following a simple Vue/Vuex tutorial the other day and my node_modules directory was 200MB+. Use yarn or npm to install XYZ.... What's the difference? Why do I have to google this as step 0? Why do you assume I know the intric…

I think currently front end development becomes a bit messy. One could compare it to a wild west. And most likely its caused by misusage of javascript. Typescript is now just a "lets learn less competent ppl how to write frontend", technologies change too fast and have too many holes. Young folks want to be recognized and jump from one bandwagon to another.. This whole mess could use some refined standarization enfor…

Ha! Good points. Glad to see Typescript on this list, it's JS for adults.

Re: Front End Development Topics to Learn in 2019

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Post by danr4 » Sat, Jan 19, 2019, 10:59 PM UTC

My top one is ReasonML.

Re: Front End Development Topics to Learn in 2019

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Post by ng12 » Sat, Jan 19, 2019, 11:00 PM UTC

juddlyon wrote: post #4

This is a solid list, but front end dev has gotten a bit absurd. I feel like I need to install 86,000 dependencies via NPM to do something that server-side frameworks already figured out. I was following a simple Vue/Vuex tutorial the other day and my node_modules directory was 200MB+. Use yarn or npm to install XYZ.... What's the difference? Why do I have to google this as step 0? Why do you assume I know the intric…

What's a language/domain/framework that's _not_ like this? After spending a few weeks struggling with Bazel and Spring you'll not convince me Java is any better.

Re: Front End Development Topics to Learn in 2019

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Post by burnt_toast » Sat, Jan 19, 2019, 11:01 PM UTC

juddlyon wrote: post #4

This is a solid list, but front end dev has gotten a bit absurd. I feel like I need to install 86,000 dependencies via NPM to do something that server-side frameworks already figured out. I was following a simple Vue/Vuex tutorial the other day and my node_modules directory was 200MB+. Use yarn or npm to install XYZ.... What's the difference? Why do I have to google this as step 0? Why do you assume I know the intric…

It's frustrating how the go to solution for a problem tends to be to install another module. I agree it's not smart to keep reinventing the wheel, but when the solution takes less than 15 minutes to implement the recommended answer shouldn't be another module.