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It was bad enough that I abandoned the google search and went to baidu, which was actually the more minimalist option for once.
That said, I do hate the changes. I found the old image search far nicer to use. The most important negative change is that when looking for an image, I like to open up multiple options in new tabs, sort of making a shortlist from which to chose from later. To do this I, while scanning the images, click on ones of interest with my middle mouse button. With the new version of Google images, the images don't become actual hyperlinks until you have hovered over them for about a second, so there's a considerable delay when trying to open multiple images in new tabs quickly.
I also dislike the live results stuff, I'm not sure if there's any specific reason or just because I'm used to the traditional method - I haven't actually used it nearly enough to know if I'd get used to it, given the chance. I use https://encrypted.google.com, which hasn't rolled out that feature, thankfully. (Possibly my issue is this: I'm a very fast typer, so I can complete my exact search query without it taking noticeably longer than completing half of my query, and it's therefore more efficient to wait until I get the most accurate results, rather than hoping that a less accurate search will have found what I'm looking for.)
Putting 'Dvorak' in the title would have saved me some time.
The image search I feel is even faster now that I don't have to click through every single page. Before I used Cool Iris. The whole point of image search is supposed to be a visual experience. If you liked an image, check its size. Also, why is his browser crashing? What's he using?
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Beware splitting hairs when you are ignoring the main point. The new google image search is worse than the old one imo so dvorak's point stands even if he got a few technical details wrong. I also agree with him that it's a bad sign when a company seems to be doing things just because their competitors did something similar.
Beware splitting hairs when you are ignoring the main point Splitting hairs? These are the specific things that he complains about being wrong with the new version, and they're ignorant bullshit. The new google image search is worse than the old one imo I think the new image search is vastly improved. I doubt I'm alone. For the purpose of finding images it is much more efficient and usable, and if you want advanced s…
It's very doubtful that either jshen or Dvorak "cried like a baby" or "pounded their fists". It's very doubtful that sort of comment will make anyone feel better or add much to the conversation. I agree with your point about complainers usually being the loudest, though.
That said, the new image search still bites. It's more time consuming than it used to be, at least for how I use it.
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Beware splitting hairs when you are ignoring the main point. The new google image search is worse than the old one imo so dvorak's point stands even if he got a few technical details wrong. I also agree with him that it's a bad sign when a company seems to be doing things just because their competitors did something similar.
Beware splitting hairs when you are ignoring the main point Splitting hairs? These are the specific things that he complains about being wrong with the new version, and they're ignorant bullshit. The new google image search is worse than the old one imo I think the new image search is vastly improved. I doubt I'm alone. For the purpose of finding images it is much more efficient and usable, and if you want advanced s…
I personally prefer the older Google Images. For one, I lose the ability to scroll the website immediately after finding it. I do this, for example, when I'm searching for some algorithm by first finding a diagram that I think is clearer and then going directly to read the explanation, or when searching for a recipe by looking for the image first.
I find the new interface to be slightly cluttered to use (with all the animations and uncomfortable feeling when scrolling), At some point, Yahoo (and others) had pretty cluttered interfaces and people eventually shifted to Google, commonly citing simplicity. For this reason, I find that taking the leap to 'everyone complains about changes' to trivialize the fact that many people may, in fact, appreciate simple interfaces.
There sometimes is a superior interface, and discussing the pros and cons of a new interface is very valuable.
JD;DR. See also: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/apple-should-pull-the-plug-... http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1923151,00.asp Has Dvorak ever been right about anything? (And no, he doesn't get credit for the keyboard layout, that was a different guy.)
Prediction: Apple Computer Corp. will switch to Intel processors within the next 12 to 18 months. http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,939886,00.asp (Technically, he was short by 9 months, but Apple did the inconceivable, eventually.)
For example, the rumor is mentioned (though rightly dismissed as impractical at the time) in this eWeek article from 2002: http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Apple/Apple-Keeps-x86-Torch-Lit-wit...
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Beware splitting hairs when you are ignoring the main point Splitting hairs? These are the specific things that he complains about being wrong with the new version, and they're ignorant bullshit. The new google image search is worse than the old one imo I think the new image search is vastly improved. I doubt I'm alone. For the purpose of finding images it is much more efficient and usable, and if you want advanced s…
I wouldn't cry like a baby and pound my fists because it no longer specifically targets me and my personal usage needs. It's very doubtful that either jshen or Dvorak "cried like a baby" or "pounded their fists". It's very doubtful that sort of comment will make anyone feel better or add much to the conversation. I agree with your point about complainers usually being the loudest, though. That said, the new image sea…
Dvorak was so incensed that someone moved his cheese (to draw from a terrible book) that he wrote an article predicting Google's "inevitable ruin" was beginning. This is the sort of over the top rejection of change that exemplified that childish response.
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Beware splitting hairs when you are ignoring the main point Splitting hairs? These are the specific things that he complains about being wrong with the new version, and they're ignorant bullshit. The new google image search is worse than the old one imo I think the new image search is vastly improved. I doubt I'm alone. For the purpose of finding images it is much more efficient and usable, and if you want advanced s…
I wouldn't first argue that Dvorak spits out 'ignorant bullshit' while claiming that all design preferences are equally valid. I personally prefer the older Google Images. For one, I lose the ability to scroll the website immediately after finding it. I do this, for example, when I'm searching for some algorithm by first finding a diagram that I think is clearer and then going directly to read the explanation, or whe…
Indeed. So who claimed that all design preferences are equally valid? Oddly you seem to be inferring that I did, but I actually didn't, making your lead-in just some noise in hope of soliciting a bias from readers.
At some point, Yahoo (and others) had pretty cluttered interfaces and people eventually shifted to Google, commonly citing simplicity
But can you see that perhaps Google was pursuing simplicity by making their image search all about the images themselves? Further they made perusing large sets of images simpler.
For users who don't care about source pixel sizes or originating domains -- which I suspect is most -- that was just distracting noise on the page. Google simplified the search to a dense, and often beautiful, collection of images, with some powerful functionality on the left.
For this reason, I find that taking the leap to 'everyone complains about changes' to trivialize the fact that many people may, in fact, appreciate simple interfaces.
Everyone complains about changes, good or bad. That is a simple truism of the world. It does not trivialize the usability of the interface, which is why I specifically talked about the usability of the interface -- all Dvorak cares about is what used to be there and now isn't. He doesn't care about the advantages of the new interface, because all he's focused on is the negative change (for him).
It's ignorant bullshit.