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Re: Twitter warns that private tweets were public for years

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Post by ajnin »

VikingCoder wrote: post #55
bilbo0s wrote: post #9

Just my own opinion, but at this point I think it's prudent to assume that pretty much anything you send out into the digital network world is public. If it's not something you would want the world knowing you said, don't put it out there. Security breaches happen. Bugs happen. Sometimes law enforcement just comes by and says, "Give me everything that user X has ever done." In short, sh!t happens. "Everything I do on…

Eric Schmidt: "If you have something that you don’t want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn’t be doing it in the first place." People have taken this different ways, but personally I think it's sage advice. We've lost our ability to keep secrets. Information wants to be free. We're terrible at digital security. Pretend everything you type into a computer is on the front page of the New York Times.

This is an incredibly oppressive, totalitarian way to put things. This is literally Big Brother thinking, which says a lots about the core values of Google. You have to act exclusively in the way that society deems acceptable. Even in privacy, in places you seem safe, even in your own home, with friends or family, because someone, some device, may be watching you at any time, opening you to the judgment of others and the law.

Re: Twitter warns that private tweets were public for years

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Post by nl »

dgzl wrote: post #124
smt88 wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Conservatives control our federal and most state governments. They recently had control of all three branches of the federal government. The idea that conservatives are a disenfranchised or endangered group is absolutely ludicrous.

I disagree entirely. Being a young white male with some moderately conservative ideals in [West coast city] makes you entirely unlikable by most people who find out. This is my first hand experience. Being conservative is the new taboo.

In Russia you can get to prison for being gay.

In West Coast US a few people might refuse to date you.

These don't seem like the same thing.

Re: Twitter warns that private tweets were public for years

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Post by dragonwriter »

abj wrote: post #84
VikingCoder wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Eric Schmidt: "If you have something that you don’t want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn’t be doing it in the first place." People have taken this different ways, but personally I think it's sage advice. We've lost our ability to keep secrets. Information wants to be free. We're terrible at digital security. Pretend everything you type into a computer is on the front page of the New York Times.

This advice works great if a person is in a majority. The problem happens when a person is in a minority. Imagine if in America in the 1910's a person has a reasonable dissenting opinion like, "I think all citizens should have equal civil rights." If I was there I would be hesitant to attach to this opinion to my public identify. Especially if my employment relied on me voicing an opinion in agreement with the majori…

> This advice works great if a person is in a majority

I think you mean “group with dominant social power”; that's often confused with majority because of the predominant pattern of race/ethnic/religious (but not economic class) oppression in Western Europe and North America, but consider apartheid South Africa.

Re: Twitter warns that private tweets were public for years

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Post by pmlnr »

odorousrex wrote: post #82
bilbo0s wrote: post #9

Just my own opinion, but at this point I think it's prudent to assume that pretty much anything you send out into the digital network world is public. If it's not something you would want the world knowing you said, don't put it out there. Security breaches happen. Bugs happen. Sometimes law enforcement just comes by and says, "Give me everything that user X has ever done." In short, sh!t happens. "Everything I do on…

This is what I have been teaching my kids and their cousins: 1) Everything you do on the internet is public 2) Everything you post on the internet is forever 3) Everything above can be traced back to you I also showed them how easy it is to save private and public snaps without sending a screenshot notification (including video!) and how easy it is to fake. It's hard to know if it's sinking in or not, but I hope so.…

> Everything you post on the internet is forever

I wish it was. Anything on social media maybe, but the broader internet dies in ~10 years.

Re: Twitter warns that private tweets were public for years

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Post by go1dfish »

soared wrote: post #42
beachie wrote: post #36

I had the pleasure of interviewing the anonymous developer of the fastest organically growing decentralized p2p app notabug.io I feel its relevant to this conversation. Why are we not switching to decentralized content sharing platforms? :S https://electronicsforu.com/resources/cool-stuff-misc/future... https://electronicsforu.com/resources/cool-stuff-misc/future...

> Why are we not switching to decentralized content sharing platforms? Because that site looks like a phishing site for reddit accounts. How is 100% cloning another site's design acceptable at all?

> How is 100% cloning another site's design acceptable at all?

1. The design is open source under a CPAL license which notabug abides by

https://github.com/reddit-archive/reddit/tree/753b17407e9a9d...

2. a goal of notabug is to support existing reddit stylesheets with minimal/no modifications; this requires dom compatibility and minimal CSS changes in the base design.

3. reddit is abandoning this formerly open source design in favor of their new design by default.

Re: Twitter warns that private tweets were public for years

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Post by shiven »

bilbo0s wrote: post #9

Just my own opinion, but at this point I think it's prudent to assume that pretty much anything you send out into the digital network world is public. If it's not something you would want the world knowing you said, don't put it out there. Security breaches happen. Bugs happen. Sometimes law enforcement just comes by and says, "Give me everything that user X has ever done." In short, sh!t happens. "Everything I do on…

Prophetic (2013) & very relevant today:

https://www.rooshv.com/the-most-insidious-method-of-control-...

Re: Twitter warns that private tweets were public for years

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Post by smt88 »

dgzl wrote: post #124
smt88 wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Conservatives control our federal and most state governments. They recently had control of all three branches of the federal government. The idea that conservatives are a disenfranchised or endangered group is absolutely ludicrous.

I disagree entirely. Being a young white male with some moderately conservative ideals in [West coast city] makes you entirely unlikable by most people who find out. This is my first hand experience. Being conservative is the new taboo.

I don't doubt that such people experience friction, but the comment I was responding to made an analogy between being conservative in the US and being gay in Russia.

The former group is the ruling class in the US. The latter group is criminalized, shamed, and sometimes murdered.

Further, being gay can't harm someone else, while being conservative in a (theoretical) democracy certainly can hurt people.

Re: Twitter warns that private tweets were public for years

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Post by gjs278 »

denzil_correa wrote: post #37
the_duke wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A prudent consumer also doesn't send 'live-destroying' messages on a public, hosted messaging platform, regardless of a private setting... Note that this isn't even about DMs.

It is about false advertisement and breach of contract, though.

ok, you can have all the money you paid twitter back, enjoy your refund

Re: Twitter warns that private tweets were public for years

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Post by kemitche »

thrillgore wrote: post #32
the_duke wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A prudent consumer also doesn't send 'live-destroying' messages on a public, hosted messaging platform, regardless of a private setting... Note that this isn't even about DMs.

I know this is a common disclaimer but this sounds like victim blaming. It says "private" it should mean private and not quote unquote private.

It's absolutely victim blaming.

It's true that it's a reasonably good practice to assume that databases will be leaked. That doesn't mean that when a company loses control of private data that the company holds no blame.

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