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Re: Problems plagued U.S. Navy destroyer Fitzgerald before fatal collision

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Post by jessaustin » Fri, Jan 18, 2019, 11:07 PM UTC

JaimeThompson wrote: post #107

ams6110 wrote: post #90

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Couldn't "find" one? Wouldn't they just order someone to fill the position? I didn't realize that postings in the Navy were optional assignments. Maybe they are for enlisted crew positions?

Ordering people to take such positions in peace time is a good way to stop them from reenlisting.

The normal way to encourage people to take shit jobs is to increase the compensation until the positions are filled. When the admirals ask why they're making less money than QMs, the answer might rouse their slumbering curiosity about conditions on ships under their command. Of course it's against regulations to adjust compensation in order to fill required combat roles, because the admirals don't actually want to know any of this shit.

Re: Problems plagued U.S. Navy destroyer Fitzgerald before fatal collision

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Post by chillacy » Sat, Jan 19, 2019, 6:26 AM UTC

fixermark wrote: post #94

balabaster wrote: post #84

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When you say non-state, you surely mean by parties whom aren't favourable to US interests. It's interesting that when a government or party that's not in the US's best interests is in power, it's okay for the CIA to use asymmetric tactics to fund rebels and favourable terrorism, stage coups d'etat, overthrow governments and meddle in foreign elections but when those parties seek to do the same to the US, it's terrori…

I imagine when a country is founded on an illegal uprising against a significant world military and economic power that they go on to win, exceptionalism ends up baked into their cultural DNA.

Vietnamese exceptionalism?

Re: Problems plagued U.S. Navy destroyer Fitzgerald before fatal collision

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Post by dba7dba » Tue, Jan 22, 2019, 1:21 AM UTC

whatshisface wrote: post #59

dba7dba wrote: post #28

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From my readings of US Navy of WW2 and personal experience in modern day tech companies, I think it's not just the bureaucracy that's at fault. Rather, the organization (actually any organization) by default favors those who manage their superiors well for more/faster promotions. So a lot of times, the best of the best doesn't necessarily rise to the top, but rather those who are good at self promoting. 1. IN WW2, US…

The trouble with that advice is that people on the receiving end of smooth talking don't think, "this guy is smooth talking me so I should promote him," instead they feel a mysterious attraction and then promote the guy for a reason they can't really explain but can come up with a justification for.

>>> they feel a mysterious attraction and then promote the guy for a reason they can't really explain but can come up with a justification for.

For a domain (tech industry) that is supposedly dominated by facts and numbers, there is a lot of promotion and hiring based on such mysterious feelings, not based on actual facts and numbers. Culture fit?