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Re: My dog was killed on a walk with a walker ordered through Wag

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Post by ikurei »

msl wrote: post #269
throwaway713 wrote: post #266

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't argue with an opinion, but this is just mind-blowing to me. Judging by everyone else's comments, it doesn't appear like yours is an isolated opinion either. I'm just at a total loss for words. I had no idea so many people value animal life above human life.

What if they value all animals' (that is, including humans') lives equally? Would you rather save someone close to you or a stranger?

I don't think (yeah, please answer if I'm wrong) that's true for anyone.

You may value a dogs life as much as a human, some do. But those same people don't go around with extreme care to avoid stepping on an ant, and would kill insects if they where an annoyance or risk to health. So they do stablish a difference between some animals, where ants are in a different tier than dogs, but humans and dogs are together in the same tier.

Personally I don't think it makes any sense. I do value animal lives greatly, and between a dog and a man I might save the dog in a split-second gut decision (and regret it later).

I reckon many people use feelings to guide (or greatly inform) their morality. Which might or might not be that bad to be honest, I don't really have a solid basis for my morality either.

Re: My dog was killed on a walk with a walker ordered through Wag

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Post by sambull »

ravenstine wrote: post #16

I was going to reply with a reply about this being "statistically bound to happen", until I read this: > If we wanted to be compensated we had to agree not to tell anyone what happened, we could not leave any negative reviews, we could not make posts on social media, we could not hold Wag or the walker responsible, and only then would Wag reimburse us for Winnie’s cremation. When we responded that we would not sign t…

Shady is the gig economy business model, with a slice of no accoutability.

Re: My dog was killed on a walk with a walker ordered through Wag

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Post by sigi45 »

Sholmesy wrote: post #251
throwaway713 wrote: post #245

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There was a comment that is now removed that said: > Spoken like someone who's never lost family. in reply to the parent's comment that said: > You killed someone's dog. This hits like losing family." My comment will probably be flagged as well, but fine, I'll sacrifice some karma to show my support. I lost my mother due to cancer when I was eleven and I personally find it offensive when someone tells me they know "w…

As someone who has lost friends and family members, as well as pets, it feels the same. I see this dichotomy quite a bit in the public discourse, regarding dogs especially, where 1/2 the world treats dogs as family and the other half thinks they are some play toy/object. We have been living with wolves/dogs for a long time now, we're responsible for how they have evolved, and part of that is how they have evolved to…

Would be nice if people would be less selfish.

We bread dogs to a form where there pure existens is our contact with them.

We bread them in forms and colors as we see fit.

We bread them in forms which makes it hard for them to breath, which gives them cancer with a high rate.

We should stop buying dogs because we like dogs. We should stop putting them in small appartments and get a service for handling our dogs because its inconvinient.

Re: My dog was killed on a walk with a walker ordered through Wag

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Post by sigi45 »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #215
idontpost wrote: post #7

Incredibly stupid decision to respond this way by Wag. How bad to you have to be at PR to screw this up? It's not hard. Liability in the case of harmed pets is extremely limited, so you just pay it all and apologize profusely. There's no way the bad press will be worth saving a couple thousand maximum. Absolute idiots.

> Absolute idiots Agreed. You do three things in a crisis: 1) Acknowledge the problem. You killed someone's dog. This hits like losing family. "We're opening an investigation" is a chickenshit message. 2) CEO needs to speak. Personal call from the top. If a dog is seriously injured or killed while on your watch, the CEO must make the call. This shows seriousness to the customer. It also ensures top brass feels the pa…

I don't think that is necessary at all.

This is some company which fixes a 'problem' with technology. They have a platform for people to buy the service of dog walking by other people.

There is no certification you need to 'walk a dog'. Kids do this, every day people do this.

Accidents happen.

And yes whatever person was in charge in formulating that email, is not very good in there job. But come on this is probably some person or perhaps 3 or 4 involved in this particular 'support case'.

And i'm assuming that whatever insurance would take a dog walker, is something you would need to pay. And most of the people wouldn't.

Re: My dog was killed on a walk with a walker ordered through Wag

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Post by ikurei »

throwaway713 wrote: post #245
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #215

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Absolute idiots Agreed. You do three things in a crisis: 1) Acknowledge the problem. You killed someone's dog. This hits like losing family. "We're opening an investigation" is a chickenshit message. 2) CEO needs to speak. Personal call from the top. If a dog is seriously injured or killed while on your watch, the CEO must make the call. This shows seriousness to the customer. It also ensures top brass feels the pa…

There was a comment that is now removed that said: > Spoken like someone who's never lost family. in reply to the parent's comment that said: > You killed someone's dog. This hits like losing family." My comment will probably be flagged as well, but fine, I'll sacrifice some karma to show my support. I lost my mother due to cancer when I was eleven and I personally find it offensive when someone tells me they know "w…

There is no "how it feels to lose a X", there is "how throwaway713 felt when they lost X". One may have a good but not very deep relationship with a close family member, but spend every day with their pet for 15 years, so to them it might be comparable.

Of course, saying "I know how you feel about your mother cos I lost my dog" is incredibly insensitive and stupid.

> you're going to claim that it is comparable to lose a human being that meant everything to you because an animal died

If that person was that important to you, of course it's not comparable. I don't think that's what the other comments were saying though.

I lost grandparents I was close with; one was after many years of several diseases fighting for the kill, death itself came as a mercy. I love my dog dearly, he's very old and his last breath is near and I get teary-eyed just from writing about it. And still, he's nothing compared to the loss of my grandmother. But that's me.

Re: My dog was killed on a walk with a walker ordered through Wag

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Post by rmtech »

issa wrote: post #100

I realize this wasn't the point of the story, and I'm so sorry this happened to anyone's dog. But please do not buy dogs from breeders when there are plenty of amazing dogs waiting to be rescued at shelters.

This is bad advice. Never buy shelter animals, buy a bread dog or cat.

Shelter animals and their problems will cost you more money over time and cause more problems. I speak from experience.

People who talk about how great shelter animals are virtue signalling.

Re: My dog was killed on a walk with a walker ordered through Wag

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Post by xupybd »

sigi45 wrote: post #344
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #215

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Absolute idiots Agreed. You do three things in a crisis: 1) Acknowledge the problem. You killed someone's dog. This hits like losing family. "We're opening an investigation" is a chickenshit message. 2) CEO needs to speak. Personal call from the top. If a dog is seriously injured or killed while on your watch, the CEO must make the call. This shows seriousness to the customer. It also ensures top brass feels the pa…

I don't think that is necessary at all. This is some company which fixes a 'problem' with technology. They have a platform for people to buy the service of dog walking by other people. There is no certification you need to 'walk a dog'. Kids do this, every day people do this. Accidents happen. And yes whatever person was in charge in formulating that email, is not very good in there job. But come on this is probably…

Yeah they provide a service via technology but also a brand. People trust the brand, you build trust in the brand to build value in your company. It’s worth a lot of money to keep your brand trusted. Actions like those suggested above are in the best interests of maintaining that trust.

Re: My dog was killed on a walk with a walker ordered through Wag

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Post by detaro »

rmtech wrote: post #347
issa wrote: post #100

I realize this wasn't the point of the story, and I'm so sorry this happened to anyone's dog. But please do not buy dogs from breeders when there are plenty of amazing dogs waiting to be rescued at shelters.

This is bad advice. Never buy shelter animals, buy a bread dog or cat. Shelter animals and their problems will cost you more money over time and cause more problems. I speak from experience. People who talk about how great shelter animals are virtue signalling.

Or had a different experience than you, or have different values than you.
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