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Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway

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We do use IP geolocation for local searches, so it sounds like our triggering is not detecting the context correctly. Would you mind sharing the search query please (if you’re comfortable), so I can take a look? As an example, something like “pizza near me” should work: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=pizza+near+me In terms of protecting privacy, you’re right, we don’t need to store the IP address (or any personal data), s…

FWIW, I do recall DDG regularly giving me results for Melbourne, Florida (when I actually want Melbourne, Australia). E.g. if I search for "Melbourne" rel="nofollow">https://duckduckgo.com/?q=melbourne+restaurant&t=ffab&atb=v1... Restaurant" , the first result is FL. "Melbourne Indian Restaurant" is a bit better, but half of the front page results are still FL. "Melbourne weather" always used to return FL, but that l…

Interesting, where are you searching from?

This is what I see when searching from the UK: https://i.imgur.com/XIxo4Jx.png

Quite clearly Melbourne, Australia. Maybe if you're in Florida it'll bias towards there.

Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway

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I use and like DDG but I can't believe this article didn't mention Bing, which powers DDG's organic results. Like, yes DDG is a small company based "just east of nowhere" in PA because Microsoft has spent literally billions of dollars on Bing . To the extent we have a choice in search provider at all, it's entirely due to Microsoft's huge investment, and I feel like it's remiss not to consider those implications. If…

If DDG is not using some of that money to build their own crawler, they should give that money back to investors. It sounds extremely hard building yourself crawlers, but it's been done in various degrees by Archive.org, various SEO tools, and Common Crawl. The best time to have built the infrastructure was 5 years ago. The second best time is now. I think the guys in DDG know this, but if they don't.. they're a bad…

They have their own crawler, DuckDuckBot: https://duckduckgo.com/duckduckbot

Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway

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You can get anonymized Google results on DDG by prefixing the search with "!g" https://duckduckgo.com/bang

I don't think those results are anonymized. You're just being redirected to Google.

It used to redirect to encrypted.google.com, which DDG said Google didn’t track, but that changed/went away.

Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway

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Any breakdown of which source is used for which percentage of queries? No.

And what's your point, exactly? You aren't tracked by Bing because they are proxying. DDG gets ad revenue (who cares that they are Bing ads?) which pays for this service. If the results are good, what do you care?

Sure, I don't want to use bing behind a proxy, a lot of people here is acting as if it is something else. They are acting as if it is something else. You like it? Use it.

Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway

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DuckDuckGo do have their own crawler, how much it’s used I don’t know.

My guess, <1%. I would be happy to be refuted with real data. Creating and maintaining a global scale high quality search engine requires a huge team with billion dollar level resources. They have neither, for now.

Expressing cynicism and demanding to be proven wrong is not an effective argument strategy.

If your goal is to convince others, you should collect the data yourself and share it with them.

Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway

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When was the last time Google did something that was worth promoting that wasn't just an attempt to acquire and exploit more personal data?

Are you okay?

Did you have something on topic to say?

Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway

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I use and like DDG but I can't believe this article didn't mention Bing, which powers DDG's organic results. Like, yes DDG is a small company based "just east of nowhere" in PA because Microsoft has spent literally billions of dollars on Bing . To the extent we have a choice in search provider at all, it's entirely due to Microsoft's huge investment, and I feel like it's remiss not to consider those implications. If…

MS also invested a ton into Windows Mobile, I imagine, but market share only went down according to Wikipedia. If DDG is simply a skin for MS Bing along with anonymous/little tracking, maybe that's what the people want?

I don't understand how this comment relates to GP. Whether people just want a DDG skin for Bing doesn't really address GP's points that (A) the article failed to mention this, and (B) failed to consider its implications.

Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway

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No company lives forever. Google will have its comeuppance one day too. It may not look like that right now, but back in the day Sears, too, had everything, and look at them today.

Not a very good comparison I'm afraid, Sears didn't lose to an other company who was offering the same service, they lost to a series of companies that offered the same utility but in a very different way. DDG is mostly just offering the same service as Google (really, only a fraction of the service because Google is a lot more than Search these days). As such I expect that at this point if a Google-killer appears it…

is he making that comparison? i read it as, ddg may not bring down google, but something eventually will, which seems exactly what you are saying too...
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