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TSA acknowledges financial stress of shutdown is forcing officers to stay home

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Post by Scoundreller »

dmurray wrote: post #28
Scoundreller wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Policing is 14th most dangerous job in USA per this list: https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/careers/2018/01/09/work... Firefighters and Security guards are not in top 25.

It's a bit surprising not to see the military on this list. According to [0] the US military has 82 deaths per 100,000 per year, around 55 of which are from "accidents" and "combat" which could reasonably be considered work-related deaths. That would put it in third or fourth place on the most dangerous list. [0] https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fool.com/amp/investing/gene...

Probably not captured under Bureau of Labor Statistics. Either military is completely excluded, or excludes ex-US.

Being on base in the USA is probably pretty safe, with a healthier than average population.

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Post by sk5t »

maccio92 wrote: post #7
kurczynski wrote: post #6

She said her fellow officers are “out there working, they’re putting their lives on the line. We took that oath when we got hired here, and we’re not even getting what we deserve.” All budgeting problems aside, how do TSA officers put their lives on the line?

You don't think screening for bombs has any potential to be dangerous?

Do you think searching Key West for rabid wolverines to be a very dangerous job, because, like, wolverines are pretty dangerous?

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Post by anth_anm »

Canada wrote: post #16
Rebelgecko wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

TSA takes people's guns away on a daily basis. Eventually a passenger may not want to cooperate. I dislike airport security as much as anyone else (and because I opt out of the body scanners I've had plenty of undesirable intimate experiences with TSA agents), but their Instagram page is really enlightening. Sadly the guy who ran it passed away last year, but it's interesting to see the volume of contraband that peop…

Remember before all the TSA nonsense, airports had metal detectors and xrays operated by airport security? Did they not also prevent guns from being carried on planes?

Yeah but they were just called security instead of TSA, so they weren't putting their lives on the line carrying out critical work.

That name makes all the difference. That and extra security theatre.

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Post by cascom »

walru wrote: post #26
cascom wrote: post #22

While i don't envy their position - i think describing it as working without pay as a little disingenuous - while they have yet to be paid for the work they are performing, does anyone really believe that they are not going to be paid for their work down the road?

Yes, they will receive back pay, but a lot of people live paycheck to paycheck.

this is my point - don't you think it a salient fact to inform the reader that these employees will in fact be paid for the work they perform....at some point

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Post by anth_anm »

cascom wrote: post #22

While i don't envy their position - i think describing it as working without pay as a little disingenuous - while they have yet to be paid for the work they are performing, does anyone really believe that they are not going to be paid for their work down the road?

Just not paying people for some indeterminate length of time is not acceptable. Not being paid is a very real hardship, especially when you consider TSA agent isn't exactly a high paying job. A lot of the government workers not being paid are average paycheck to paycheck Americans. I'll have the money in a few weeks isn't much comfort when you need to pay your bills and get food for your kids today.

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Post by anth_anm »

excalibur wrote: post #29

> “The American people need to know that their air travel remains safe,” Markey wrote. I think the American people have been lied to enough.

Air travel is safe, the lie is that we need the TSA and the security theatre.

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Post by ianleeclark »

cascom wrote: post #22

While i don't envy their position - i think describing it as working without pay as a little disingenuous - while they have yet to be paid for the work they are performing, does anyone really believe that they are not going to be paid for their work down the road?

> i think describing it as working without pay as a little disingenuous

Disingenuous is taking this too far. They're paid in arrears, so the fact they've missed a paycheck means they've already done work which ought to have resulted in pay. They are currently without pay for labor they've contributed within the appropriate time-frame.

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Post by drdeadringer »

cascom wrote: post #34
walru wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, they will receive back pay, but a lot of people live paycheck to paycheck.

this is my point - don't you think it a salient fact to inform the reader that these employees will in fact be paid for the work they perform....at some point

... at some point where they may be homeless because of missing rent because of living paycheck to paycheck and the first $0-by-government-shutdown paychecks have already been sent out.

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Post by davinic »

cascom wrote: post #34
walru wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, they will receive back pay, but a lot of people live paycheck to paycheck.

this is my point - don't you think it a salient fact to inform the reader that these employees will in fact be paid for the work they perform....at some point

The point is that they won't be repaid for the costs incurred from being without any income for months. These include late fees, high interest rates on loans, long-term damage to their credit, etc.

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Post by dsfyu404ed »

Scoundreller wrote: post #15
Cpoll wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm genuinely curious, myself. In the US, how many deaths in the line of duty are there (per thousand) for police officers, firefighters, and TSA agents, to juxtapose?

Policing is 14th most dangerous job in USA per this list: https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/careers/2018/01/09/work... Firefighters and Security guards are not in top 25.

Not all policing is equal. Beat cop in Chicago or Sheriff of Methville is on a whole different level than TSA. Park Rangers are probably much higher risk than your average TSA employee because the routinely work alone and often are put in a situation where they have to tell a bunch of drunk people to stop partying.

For what is pays and the educational requirements policing is a very safe job.

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