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A Stroke Turned a 63-Year-Old into a Rap Legend

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Re: A Stroke Turned a 63-Year-Old into a Rap Legend

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Interesting that you're postulating a ~19 year conspiracy to fabricate a man across at least two LA Times articles from 2000 and this Atlantic piece in 2019. And I guess celebrity rapper KRS One, quoted in the Atlantic, would have to be in on the fabrication too. And the LA Times photographer who sold his images to the Atlantic.

You mean celebrity rapper KRS-1, who (a long time since he was a success, and when he was trying to start a weird hip-hop religion) met Dr. Rapp, gave him "rap lessons" and planned to write a book or do a record with him (neither of which came to fruition.) This also all happened in 1999, right before the LA Times articles in 2000. This was a KRS-1 publicity project that didn't end up working. BTW, it's a straw man t…

It's a case study of the unusual effects of a stroke on the human brain published to the health section of a news website. Seems like a reasonable topic for a health story to me.

Re: A Stroke Turned a 63-Year-Old into a Rap Legend

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting that you're postulating a ~19 year conspiracy to fabricate a man across at least two LA Times articles from 2000 and this Atlantic piece in 2019. And I guess celebrity rapper KRS One, quoted in the Atlantic, would have to be in on the fabrication too. And the LA Times photographer who sold his images to the Atlantic.

You mean celebrity rapper KRS-1, who (a long time since he was a success, and when he was trying to start a weird hip-hop religion) met Dr. Rapp, gave him "rap lessons" and planned to write a book or do a record with him (neither of which came to fruition.) This also all happened in 1999, right before the LA Times articles in 2000. This was a KRS-1 publicity project that didn't end up working. BTW, it's a straw man t…

>it's a straw man to pretend that this story being a fabrication means that the man himself was fabricated

Sorry, I'm not clear on something: On what basis are you suggesting the Atlantic article is a "fabrication?"

Re: A Stroke Turned a 63-Year-Old into a Rap Legend

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> He was tall and lean, ran six miles a day, and was a strict vegetarian. “I believe a physician should provide exemplary motivation to patients,” he once wrote. “I don’t smoke and have cut out all alcohol.” > “Sometimes I worked from 6 a.m. to 3 a.m.,” he recalled, adding that the pressures had cost him his first marriage. I don't understand how a medical doctor can fail to consider sleep deprivation and overworking…

I swear, a surgeon killed my dad. My dad's surgery was scheduled immediately after the surgeon returned from Australia -- he drove straight from a 30-hour flight to the surgery ward. His scalpel slipped and nicked a chyle duct, which took another half-dozen surgeries to correct. Sure, the cancer was gonna kill him, but spending 3 months in ICU probably took years away from us. I can't imagine the surgeon's hubris in…

Surgeons are cowboys. They know it and take pride in it. It's a cultural thing that will take work. This macho culture thing is so common it makes me wonder.

Re: A Stroke Turned a 63-Year-Old into a Rap Legend

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post #12

> He was tall and lean, ran six miles a day, and was a strict vegetarian. “I believe a physician should provide exemplary motivation to patients,” he once wrote. “I don’t smoke and have cut out all alcohol.” > “Sometimes I worked from 6 a.m. to 3 a.m.,” he recalled, adding that the pressures had cost him his first marriage. I don't understand how a medical doctor can fail to consider sleep deprivation and overworking…

I swear, a surgeon killed my dad. My dad's surgery was scheduled immediately after the surgeon returned from Australia -- he drove straight from a 30-hour flight to the surgery ward. His scalpel slipped and nicked a chyle duct, which took another half-dozen surgeries to correct. Sure, the cancer was gonna kill him, but spending 3 months in ICU probably took years away from us. I can't imagine the surgeon's hubris in…

I suspect in some professions hubris is so important that people who tend to be humble simply don't make it in them. For example, Chuck Yeager complained about the arrogance of test pilots and I've heard a couple of times surgeons comparing themselves to fighter pilots. The difference, of course, is pilots kill themselves while surgeons kill their patients.

I'm so sorry about your dad.

Re: A Stroke Turned a 63-Year-Old into a Rap Legend

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> He was tall and lean, ran six miles a day, and was a strict vegetarian. “I believe a physician should provide exemplary motivation to patients,” he once wrote. “I don’t smoke and have cut out all alcohol.” > “Sometimes I worked from 6 a.m. to 3 a.m.,” he recalled, adding that the pressures had cost him his first marriage. I don't understand how a medical doctor can fail to consider sleep deprivation and overworking…

Sounds like this was in the 1960's or 70's. That's a whole different world.

Knowledge of sleep may not have been as pervasive as it is today.

Re: A Stroke Turned a 63-Year-Old into a Rap Legend

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You mean celebrity rapper KRS-1, who (a long time since he was a success, and when he was trying to start a weird hip-hop religion) met Dr. Rapp, gave him "rap lessons" and planned to write a book or do a record with him (neither of which came to fruition.) This also all happened in 1999, right before the LA Times articles in 2000. This was a KRS-1 publicity project that didn't end up working. BTW, it's a straw man t…

It's a case study of the unusual effects of a stroke on the human brain published to the health section of a news website. Seems like a reasonable topic for a health story to me.

Journalists make stuff up all the time in ever more major outlets...

Re: A Stroke Turned a 63-Year-Old into a Rap Legend

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> He was tall and lean, ran six miles a day, and was a strict vegetarian. “I believe a physician should provide exemplary motivation to patients,” he once wrote. “I don’t smoke and have cut out all alcohol.” > “Sometimes I worked from 6 a.m. to 3 a.m.,” he recalled, adding that the pressures had cost him his first marriage. I don't understand how a medical doctor can fail to consider sleep deprivation and overworking…

A lot of people think you can overcome sleep deprivation and stress by being 'healthy'. They overestimate the effects of diet and drinking and underestimate the effects of stress.

Re: A Stroke Turned a 63-Year-Old into a Rap Legend

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post #24
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I swear, a surgeon killed my dad. My dad's surgery was scheduled immediately after the surgeon returned from Australia -- he drove straight from a 30-hour flight to the surgery ward. His scalpel slipped and nicked a chyle duct, which took another half-dozen surgeries to correct. Sure, the cancer was gonna kill him, but spending 3 months in ICU probably took years away from us. I can't imagine the surgeon's hubris in…

I suspect in some professions hubris is so important that people who tend to be humble simply don't make it in them. For example, Chuck Yeager complained about the arrogance of test pilots and I've heard a couple of times surgeons comparing themselves to fighter pilots. The difference, of course, is pilots kill themselves while surgeons kill their patients. I'm so sorry about your dad.

To drag this conversation into further despair; an airshow pilot in the UK is currently being charged for manslaughter for when he, allegedly, negligently performed a risky manoeuvre and survived a crash that killed 11 people.

Re: A Stroke Turned a 63-Year-Old into a Rap Legend

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post #24
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I swear, a surgeon killed my dad. My dad's surgery was scheduled immediately after the surgeon returned from Australia -- he drove straight from a 30-hour flight to the surgery ward. His scalpel slipped and nicked a chyle duct, which took another half-dozen surgeries to correct. Sure, the cancer was gonna kill him, but spending 3 months in ICU probably took years away from us. I can't imagine the surgeon's hubris in…

I suspect in some professions hubris is so important that people who tend to be humble simply don't make it in them. For example, Chuck Yeager complained about the arrogance of test pilots and I've heard a couple of times surgeons comparing themselves to fighter pilots. The difference, of course, is pilots kill themselves while surgeons kill their patients. I'm so sorry about your dad.

I wonder if the humble ones are the ones that will adapt best to robotic surgery.

If that ends up being case then 'choosing a human' may quickly become a Market for Lemons situation - you might have gotten better outcomes from human surgeons except the only ones still doing it by hand are full of themselves and too proud to admit they are human and make mistakes.

Re: A Stroke Turned a 63-Year-Old into a Rap Legend

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post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a case study of the unusual effects of a stroke on the human brain published to the health section of a news website. Seems like a reasonable topic for a health story to me.

Journalists make stuff up all the time in ever more major outlets...

On what basis are you suggesting the Atlantic article is made up?
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